MAFS Australia Thread 3 - Manbuns, lobster claws, & Aldi Andrew Tate - they’re not our jam (NO SPOILERS)

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Next thread - on we go!!

Spoke to a friend who lives in Byron Bay. Turns out she lived with Lucinda in a house share in 2021 and said she’s nothing like her MAFS personality in real life. I won’t elaborate in case the Daily Mail is lurking but it’s not pretty. Lucinda did say she’s worked on herself for the last three years so maybe she’s a better person now. I hope that’s the case because I really like her!

Well you have to give us more than that, in what way was she different ??

I'm still going to stick with thinking 🦞 doesn't have dirt on Jonno. It will be fascinating to see what Jonno's sister has to say during the friends week. Jonno apologising to Jack & Tori for them coming under heat was ridiculous. BUT it did almost remind me of someone who's been bullied/brow beaten/ had a very strict upbringing who has to do the British thing of just apologise even when you haven't done anything or the person doesn't need apologising too. I might be way off, but I feel like there's more there behind Jonno than 🦞 having dirt.

Either way it doesn't change the fact he was completely wrong and should have apologised to Lauren. Well, he shouldn't have let her down in the first place.

‘Well you have to give us more than that, in what way was she different?’

Well I did but deleted it cos I can just see the DM sidebar now - their henchmen are everywhere, and if she has changed I don’t want to drag up the past for her. Toxic tho, apparently.

I'm finding it interesting that the camera is zooming in on Jack's hand etc.
I don't really remember seeing this kind of thing before.

Well even though he is coming across as a wet lettuce, I can see how it happened with Jono, they have completely different personalities. Lauren is outspoken and it’s fun to watch on tv but I wouldn’t want to be married to someone like that.

I really like her but if I told my husband/partner a load of awful gossip and then they said ‘I’m going to say that in front of everyone at a big dinner party. And you must support me’ I would be like ‘nooooooooo!!, don’t be stirring up trouble!’ And completely mortified and full of regret that I told or ‘squelt’ I would feel bad about the whole thing and the scene it caused, so I can see why Jono was just wanting to disappear.

But in the taxi when she said she was going to bring it up and he'd need to have her back, I don't think he asked her NOT to say anything? Agree I'd possibly be mortified too (or I'd be the loud one, depending on the issue!). So I know what you mean, but I think he'd missed that window to say no

It’s a lesson for Jonno to watch what he tells his wife as she can’t keep secrets and doesn’t understand discretion or diplomacy.
in real life he would never choose an outspoken woman like Lauren so he probably assumed she would keep his confidence. But yes once he dug his grave he should have defended her when what she was saying was true!
it would have been a good match ( for drama purposes) to put jack and Lauren together

Jonno didn't know she was going to name him, that's what really flustered him.

I also think ( maybe an unpopular opinion) that if there was a bride that did not want to have sex with her husband she would be under much less pressure to do so with everyone doubting her.
there was Peggy in the U.K. version and they never had sex at all during the show and it did get mentioned but not in an aggressive way by the panel. I didn’t like that at all. Jack is allowed to not want to have sex with someone he has known for two weeks.

I’ve given my OH notice of the very same. 🤣

It's Jack's reasons that are problematic. The real ones, not what he's saying

But that’s pointless, if only jack and jonno were involved in the convo, it’s no secret to jack who told who what.

im utterly shaken by the way a fully grown man crumbled and folded in front of a vile little specimen like jack.

also, for whatever reason, bizarrely Tori was insisting on being The Power Couple from literally day 1. It struck me as super odd and perhaps that’s why she’s utterly determined to be seen as successful or more successful than the others, that she’s committed to this thing with jack. No. Matter. What.

I sincerely hope the scales fall from her eyes and she sees just how awful Jack is.

Sane happened last year

Recovering from illness blonde girl wanted to spill something at the dinner party but her husband (long hair cowboy) was very against it. Stay in your lane.

But most of us would be mortified if our partners betrayed our confidence in a dinner party like that. (Obviously we are not signed up for this tv show though where no one can have a private chat or text)

To be honest though, if Jack hadn't said anything bad there would be nothing to bring up. It's as though the show are subconciously punishing people who stand up for friends when they hear bad things about them behind their back. If Jono cares about Lauren he cares about her friends, so he should be telling her things that might make her friend unhappy. I can see why he told her, if he did it for this reason, but it is coming across that he just said it because he wanted to look better than Jack to Lauren and get brownie points - he didn't actually want her to warn Tori. I don't know if Lauren would do it again though, given how Tori reacted and no one backed her other than Sara.

But what are Jack’s true reasons @dapsnotplimsolls ?
is it that he doesn’t fancy Tori as her body is not fit enough? That’s not a gentlemanly reason and he certainly should not be telling others but it is an acceptable reason to not have sex with someone else. Any reason is ok in fact. Surely it’s better he has not had sex rather than having sex for sake of it but telling others he does not fancy his wife.
it’s become this topsey turvey logic where the bad guy is the one not using his wife for sex 🧐

Yep, absolutely it's ok for people not to have sex. The issue with Jack is that he's blatantly stringing Tori along. Tells the men he's very sexual. Then doesn't sleep with her. Then plays semantics with whether or not he's attracted to her.

Ooh interesting!! To be fair, I've seen house shares bring out the absolute worst in otherwise 'deece' people and lockdown might have exacerbated it. I've seen this worse in older houseshares of friends rather than my student/20s days as I was in an expensive city and people didn't really want to be sharing anymore but were somewhat stuck with randoms.

Poor Andrea looked so uncomfortable. Why did they make it about her?! It isn't appropriate to be banging on about sex like that when their respective kids will be mortified. Richard needed to apologise for getting carried away and assure Andrea he will be more discreet in future. It's not about her past.

I really hope Tori's pride allows her to say she gave jack a chance wholeheartedly but she deserves a man who isn't going around gossiping about not being attracted to her. I hope it doesn't go the other way and make her double down on the shitty relationship.

Yes I agree he could be using sex as a control mechanism. Which is wrong.
but Peggy sort of did that too but I guess the power imbalance is different between males and females and you have to take that into account. Jack does strike me as toxic and I would hate my dd to be dating him. But I think he was getting a hard time about not having sex.

I agree it's better jack doesn't have sex if he doesn't want to for any reason.

If that's because he only fancies thrice daily gym goers, fair enough. At least it means he won't come bothering me!

It's this bollocksing about making sure Tori doesn't know where she stands, putting her down to others, denying it, suggesting she isn't good enough (she has a beautiful face but), making it a group drama to humiliate her or discussing his lack of attraction with everyone but her, then lying about it in front of her. Claiming to her that his attraction usually builds with acquaintance after having said it's either there or not to Alessandra. That's the off part.

She's an odd one with some issues probably from her childhood. She sees it as a competition (who can stay in the longest) rather than the outcome. She gets on well enough with Jack so she doesn't really care what he says about her etc. I think for them both, being in MAFS is a career move rather than a search for a decent relationship.

This does not surprise me one bit about Lucinda. Anyone who's so much into their alternative lifestyle and forcing it onto others (including Tim at their wedding) has to have another side to them. She showed it too, when things weren't going her way.

@sashagabadon I think he was getting the hard time about not having sex because it's the most effective way to challenge his stringing her along behaviour. It's borderline uncomfortable territory for me, but I understand why the questions. And he could actually give a straight answer. But he doesn't.

@mewkins I agree with you about her competing nature. I just really hope she does have the strength of character not to end up hurt. I'm not sure that she does.

I think Jack is getting his sexual kicks out of dominating and controlling Tori. He doesn't need to have actual sex with her. She has become a timid 'yes sir' girl and has lost the fire and attitude she had 4 weeks ago.