Micheal Mosley secrets of your big shop

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Anyone watching this ? I'm amazed how people claim a healthy diet and then their shopping trolley is full of crap.

That couple who sat scoffing sweeties on the sofa all evening, I was just amazed. And she wondered why she had tummy aches and constipation?🤦‍♀️
All of these people must know they are eating shit and that’s why they feel rough?

I don't think MM has sold out for this. Those people who listen to Zoe and MM podcasts are already invested in changing their diet. To me this program presents these issues in a light-hearted and relatable way to people who don't already have that knowledge and understanding.

I work in an office and am one of the older people in there. 4 out of 5 of the younger (under 30's) are overweight. They all complain of tiredness, digestive issues and various generalized aches and pains. I am generally horrified by their diets - it's a treadmill of fizzy drinks, junk food and UPF. Food is always a topic of conversation and they appear to be totally unaware that they aren't actually eating any real food. Even when discussing "home cooked" food they'll have used jars of premade sauce. They have literally no idea and do not associate their diets with how they feel.

I think that if a show like this gets people like my colleagues to become more aware of what they are eating then great.

Totally agree about £15k on takeaways! Absolutely mad! Plus the Mum they're living with is likely to be pissed off that they're spending that on takeaways when they're meant to be saving for a house.
The info in the programme is helpful, I've learnt from it

I stopped watching it, assumed they were loaded and could afford it …. but they were living with her mum and saving for a house??
Bloody hell 😳

I find these programmes a waste of time as I regularly listen to Zoe etc. Not an expert but stay away from eating shite by and large so not learning anything new by watching these mindless families gorging on crap.

How can you possibly not know how many takeaways you are ordering and realise that you must be spending a lot on them? Are they really that thick?

Just annoys me and then they bleat that they can't afford a house

Plenty of people make a living out of over complicating it. It's an entire industry.

@Offwiththecircus yes it’s so simple, that’s why everyone is slim and healthy.

When I found out that couple spend £15k on takeaways I thought they look bloody good on it! They weren't actually v overweight. It reminded me of that show Freaky Eaters. The people who only generally ate nothing but chips looked remarkably good on that too.

Although I guess the key point is that their health was in a bad way with cholesterol, anxiety etc.

That was a really interesting episode!

Me too re listening to Zoe, etc, but I am still watching cos I’m morbidly fascinated! These progs are not to educate the Zoe listeners, they’re for those who have no idea about diet (and it doesn’t mean you’re thick - I have v intelligent friends who are just not interested in changing to less upf or know a white bagel is basically a cake (fine for an occasional treat, not for a daily lunch). There’s more info out there than ever on food that’s bad for you. I’m even converting dh now.

Agree totally.

How is a bagel a cake?

Not all bagels are the same. I don't exactly treat bread like cake but I don't really eat sandwiches (though when I do it would be a toasted bagel with egg and bacon) and limit the amount I have. Higher fibre/wholewheat/seeded bread goes down better with me.

The Warburtons "protein" thin bagels are pretty useful and tasty.

Things like brioche, croissants etc I treat the same as cake though. That and any naice/fresh white bread doesn't go down well, or not in large amounts anyway. Unusually I ate a whole Sainsbury's bake at home white baguette at the weekend and I could have shat through the eye of a needle.

I think with bread people focus too much on the amount of processing and not enough on whether it's a simple or complex carb. I look at how much fibre there is first.

Really? Do some research.

Aspartame - cancerous, 200 times sweeter than sugar so drives addiction. It breaks down into formaldehyde which again is a carcinogen. It also contributes to weight gain, and a variety of issues if you keep drinking it
Phosphoric acid (a huge driver for tooth decay)
Caffeine

I drink Pepsi in moderation- maybe a glass with a meal once a month - but to say it ticks all the boxes is just ill informed and untrue.

I don't rate porridge, just as it isn't that lovely to start with and doesn't fill me up remotely without having a metric ton of it or coating it with sugar and protein.

I drink Diet Coke occasionally. But I actually bloody love it.

He isnt a medical doctor though is it?

I dont mind him, he at least did it himself to lose some weight and move out of being pre diabetic I think

The problem is the public dont want to hear that you do have to eat fewer calories, so they buy into things which they think means you dont have to have some restriction in your diet to lose weight.

So you get people that do overcomplicate that with smoke and mirrors and programmes and books and shakes and apps and all that. And then the public buy it up.

@soupfiend he finished medical school, he trained to be a psychiatrist.

You're dead right about people not wanting to hear about eating fewer calories. I like his basic message; eat more vegetables, enough protein and less crap. He makes it sound so simple 😆

@5thCommandment I think @HangingOnJustAbout was being sarcastic

I drink too many fizzy drinks and I know they aren't great for me.
I got the "better health" food scanner app and it is a very blunt tool. Diet coke was ticked as a good choice because obviously no calories/fat/sugar. Anything like biscuits or chocolate were a no, but the recommended alternative was very processed cereal bar (I think alpen cereal bars came up as a healthy alternative for a number of things)
I'd sooner have a smaller amount of cake/chocolate than a "low fat" or "healthy" cereal bar.

It's highly processed with a relatively high sugar and salt content. You would get better nutrition from a piece of banana cake with seeds and nuts in it.

I got the "better health" food scanner app and it is a very blunt tool. Diet coke was ticked as a good choice because obviously no calories/fat/sugar. Anything like biscuits or chocolate were a no, butthe recommended alternative was very processed cereal bar (I think alpen cereal bars came up as a healthy alternative for a number of things)

See this is where I think things like this app are so so wrong. Outside of extreme dehydration and an absence of alternatives, Diet coke is never a "good" choice. And nor are alpen cereal bars. Arguably adults with the exception of those in manual jobs don't need to snack at all, but the food companies have conned us into thinking snacking is normal and necessary.

A shortbread finger biscuit (check the packet but most are UPF free) will have a similar amount of calories and is much more satisfying to dunk in your tea.