MR BATES VS THE POST OFFICE - mon to thur ITV 9pm - tv pace no spoilers

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Mr Bates vs The Post Office is an ITV drama based on a true story of injustice starring Toby Jones, Julie Hesmondhalgh, WIll Mellor and Monica Dolan.
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Mr Bates vs The Post Office is a hard-hitting ITV1 drama starring Toby Jones, Monica Dolan and Julie Hesmondhalgh among others.

The series details one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in British legal history, where thousands of Post Office sub postmasters and postmistresses were wrongly accused of theft, fraud and false accounting due to a defective IT system.

Mr Bates vs The Post Office follows Alan Bates (Toby Jones), a sub postmaster who decided to fight back against a scandalous miscarriage of justice.

He was one of thousands of sub postmasters and postmistresses who between 2000 and 2013 were falsely accused of theft due to financial discrepancies thrown up by the flawed Horizon computerised accounting system.

More than 700 were prosecuted and several went to prison while others lost their homes and life savings trying to pay back the money the Post Office claimed was missing.

Many were unfairly ostracised from their communities, who believed they were criminals.

In 2009 Alan Bates decided to form the Justice For Subpostmasters Alliance (https://www.jfsa.org.uk/), uniting thousands of his colleagues to
fight to clear their names.

Agree with all these pints in Sunday Times.
Only addition on pint 6 would be Government should migrate away from all Fujitsu systems and never use them again.

Points sorry.

Yes, exactly what dh and I said. It started in 1999, but he made it sound like it was 30+ years ago, and in the past. He’s a prize cunt though, so not surprised tbh. He couldn’t give a fuck about the ordinary person, unless they’re an illegal immigrant en route to Rwanda.

I am impressed by James Arbuthnot and Nadhim Zahari for doing what is right. I am really angry with Sir Ed Davy, Leader of the Lib Dems, for refusing to meet up with Alan Bates when he was Minister for Postal Services. He pretends to be a caring politician but always puts his own interests first. I hate the hypocrisy shown by the Lib Dems. They are the Tory lite party.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to make it political!

ALL political parties have dirty hands wrt this scandal - Labour were in power until 2010, introduced private finance and therefore Horizon. Lib Dems with Ed Davey. Conservatives who were in power since 2010 (2015 exclusively).

My point was that the current Prime Minister, today, can't even be bothered to know the basic facts and was trying to minimise it. Nothing has really changed for the Sub Postmasters.

Agree Sunak is a waste of space.
I'd be far more impressed if he said we have not done enough - and took on board all the actions in Times article detailed by pp below.

Fujitsu have too much leverage and influence in the UK Government. Fujitsu won a £485 million contract for the Northern Ireland Education Authority just before Christmas, then you have Andy Burnham signing a partnership with Fujitsu just before Christmas. They won't be excluded from winning any contracts, Fujitsu will get a slap on the wrist after the Inquiry, insurers will pay up and nothing will change.
www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/news/greater-manchester-signs-exploratory-partnership-with-japanese-technology-leader-fujitsu-to-boost-investment-zone-plans/

Pass a law (this can be passed in a day) overturning all Post Office convictions 2000 - 2016, including of those who have died and regardless of whether they pleaded guilty

Yep They can do it when they want to They went and changed the law quick smart retrospectively when Cait Reilly won her case against them making her do workfare in Poundland

Fujitsu have too much leverage and influence in the UK Government. Fujitsu won a £485 million contract for the Northern Ireland Education Authority just before Christmas, then you have Andy Burnham signing a partnership with Fujitsu just before Christmas. They won't be excluded from winning any contracts, Fujitsu will get a slap on the wrist after the Inquiry, insurers*

I accept all that you say. The point here is that Fujitsu should not have this much leverage with the Government.

We - 10s of millions of ordinary people - vote for the Government.

So any Labour or Tory spin doctors reading this - put in you manifesto you'll eliminate Fujitsu. You'll be amazed how many votes this will get you.

And the country will get rid of a load of rubbish software which must be financially beneficial in the medium to longer term.

A journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step

Mr. Bates clearly believed this.

Labour is Tory Lite.

Lib Dems are Tory Extra Lite.

There is a really good detailed podcast on bbc sounds by Nick Wallis, I recommend it for anyone following this story.

Big political error there by Sunak - I think this is really capturing the national mood and a politician who behaves dismissively about it does so at his peril.

@Superlambaanana 👏

Saw this posted on another thread Depending on when it was written maybe Sunaks PR people had a 🙄moment

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67905194

Watching the clip, his words sounded like someone who had been briefed by advisers, and had not fully grasped what the public are up in arms about, because he hadn't actually watched the programmes they had watched, neither the dramatisation nor the documentary which followed. He said, and I quote: "Obviously it happened a very long time ago in the 90s" then waffled on about what a lot of money had already been paid out.

Of course, that's just my impression

Really moving watching the real story one and listening to how Jo's village gave her thousands out of the goodness of their hearts

Really moving watching the real story one and listening to how Jo's village gave her thousands out of the goodness of their hearts

What’s the documentary? I have only seen the ITV drama and the Panorama from 2022.

It's called "Mr Bates v the Post Office: The Real Story". It was broadcast after the 10 pm news, after the final part of MBVTPO on Thursday. It's on ITV X.

Sunak reacting to the problem like it took a TV drama to tell him about it.

Perhaps we need TV dramas to cover all the significant problems of the day - otherwise how on earth is the PRIME
MINISTER ever meant to know about them. 😡

Found it - thanks @IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads

Feel so bad for the real Jess 🙁

@AnotherAllotment Id love to write one about HAs ..................well if thats what it takes.

So I’m still half way through the ITV programme.
What I don’t get is why Fujitsu were hacking into the post office accounts.
What were they gaining from it , other than trying to frame the post masters ?
Why? Who did it benefit?
What kind of people would do that and let innocent people go to prison for no apparent reason ?

yep am afraid these days seems that the Met have to be dragged screaming to investigate power.
They grovel before power it seems.
Reference Boris parties.
Pathetic.
Makes you wonder who Fujitsu have leveraged.
And how.