This is Big Brother. Please swear as much as you like here

[TellingBone]

Launch show tonight 9:00pm on ITV1, ITV2 and ITVX. I understand that housemates actually entered the house last night and that part was recorded.

Broadcasts will be at the same time nightly, followed six nights per week by Late and Live, and then a live stream after that on ITVX.

Bring it

Ha ha that's never going to happen. All this stuff is so controlled and fake. Nothing real ever happens on TV anymore.

We need to be having difficult conversations about the topic.

But putting an18 year old right in the middle of that where they will be held up as representing all trans people isn't helpful and is grossly unfair to them, to transpeople and to women generally.

Big Brother isn't the place for this conversation.

We run the risk that it will take over the whole series too.

Personally, I just hope Hallie ends up just not clicking with the others and getting an early exit so it doesn't blow up which it will if they gets through the later stages.

I'd much rather it was just about the characters.

Just seen on sneak peak on the app a few people looking unimpressed with Olivia's shit.

I am sure everybody in the house is now pretending that they don't know he is transgender and there will be this amazed reveal. So that they can pretend that no one ever notices or is bothered by it. Whereas the reality is that nobody dares say anything like the emperor's new clothes.

Of course that will be happening. They will all know. Hallie is apparently 6"3', has a masculine build. masculine facial features and voice. There's just no way Hallie will ever pass as a woman.

However, I feel this could be happen to any of our teen kids in the current climate and we should tread carefully with young people questioning their identity.

They're going through puberty, things get confusing, they may be struggling with friendships, accepting their sexuality, changes to their body. Girls are sexualised, boys are told they must be strong and sporty. Then they're bombarded with trans stuff on social media, schools affirm it by having LGBT lunchtime clubs, they're taught to accept it because #bekind rather than being taught it's a belief some people have and it's ok not to believe.

So called 'cis' gendered kids are terrified of being cancelled by their friends and schools for being transphobic so they encourage others when they float the idea they might be trans. Parents are clueless as to how to best handle it, no one wants a suicidal child. It's a nightmare.

Then something like Big Brother swoops on them to be on a show and exploit them. Imagine if when Hallie got there, all the housemates told him they knew he was a man or said they knew all along when Hallie makes the big 'reveal'. Hallie would feel awful and as much as I hate this ideology, does anyone want an 18 year old to be humiliated and shown up on national tv. They should never have been allowed to put Hallie in the house, there's just no way that Hallie can reliably deal with being the example of a trans person at that age, in the middle of a media storm about the issue.

And it is taking over the whole show already. Almost everything I've seen on twitter and tiktok is about Hallie. There's some comments I wouldn't wish on a vulnerable 18year old reading.

Apparently she has came out to her housemates

@RedToothBrush DH and i were saying the same thing last night. About BB5 and Fight Night and how it was obvious they really wanted Nadia to win.
Found this on you tube. 16 mins long They had lots of fights that year and seems even worse than i remember it

On just first impressions ages/ looks.
I wouldn't have the two perm guys, younger one seems too dull and not quirky or anything. The other one reminds me too much of Freddie from years ago. The one that loved Bea ?
Channel 4 classic series.
Also Kerry meh, the blonde girls meh also.

This is considering they have to pick from 10 thousand plus applications, you just think WTF

Oh and Henry seems too like others playing that role in the past.
No good looking ones either. Apart from miss unierverse. Girls wise anyway.

You'd normally get two naturally hot men and women.
Not love island types just very good on camera.

You can't bleat on about "men can wear whatever they want, or present how they want" then immediately go on the attack when someone is gnc.

No one has gone 'on the attack' and Hallie is not gnc.

If Hallie said in her VT 'I'm a man and I prefer to present as stereotypically female' - that would be gnc.

Noticing that someone on a popular tv show is transgender and talking about it on a public forum is not an attack. It's an observation and one that actually reflects real life. Anyone meeting Hallie in person would be thinking the same and possibly talking to their friends about it. People can see that most transwomen don't pass. This is not a negative thing and, again, not an attack.

I agree that Hallie is extremely young and inexperienced to be put in such a vulnerable position though, as there will be people making negative comments about all of the housemates, like they do with all shows like this and I feel that Hallie may have been too sheltered in her adolescent life to really be prepared for it.

Or a mole!

Remember when BB made the new contestant go in as a mole 😂

You'd normally get two naturally hot men and women.
Not love island types just very good on camera.

And they always get couples who pair up for a showmance which is really boring. Can't see that happening with this lot.

Interesting that there are two perm haired guys and two velvet jacket posh/fake posh guys and two people from Wales. Is there a theme?

Oh yes @WallaceinAnderland 🤣

Yes that's weird they doubled up with a few.

Olivia was right to be a bit pissed at them guzzling all the champagne before everyone got some. Can't stand the stuff myself but it wouldn't be BB without alcohol wars.

2 bottles for 16 people is pathetic 😒 I'd be v annoyed about that.

Also v disappointed there's no male hot totty. Those perms are absolutely vile 😳 shades of Harry Enfield and the Scousers "calm down "

Well, I really enjoyed it. Took me right back to the first series. I'm pleased that there's a real range of people and not sure why people are complaining about the diversity. Much rather a list of people ticking various boxes than the homogeneity of Love Island.

Just watching last night's show. God what a pile of shit. Awful presenters, awful people.

Signing in.. just about to start on catch up! I used to love this program 😆 bring on the randomness! Nothing will beat Nadia for me - dressed as a commando nazi arguing with Jason (the very spiteful little one).. ahh those were the days

I tried watching the after show but I find AJ too annoying. She seems more concerned with positioning herself to look great on camera than interacting properly with the audience. It was just so flat. Turned it off in the end.

Just watched the fights from BB5 and it is astonishing how unafraid they all were to say what they thought and have differing opinions. Nowadays they'd all fear being cancelled. I'd love to watch all of BB5 again.

I hope they do proper 3 day tasks again this series, with overnight duties. Channel 5 went all soft on the tasks and BB was far poorer without them.

I thought AJ didn't look like herself to the point I thought it wasn't her! She usually looks gorgeous.

Wow, this is a lot! I couldn't have lived with all that arguing and all those awful people 😂 Even the garish decor seemed set up to make people feel uneasy. And the brown carpet and bunk beds! Wow. I watched bits of that series but seem to have wiped much of that from my memory