The Long Shadow - ITV1 - Monday September 25th at 9pm

[Southeastdweller]

Anyone else looking forward to watching this seven part drama?

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/drama/the-long-shadow-release-date-newsupdate/

And the point of this programme is!

Everyone knows the story and how evil he was and how it took ages to catch.

Another programme from ITV trying to drag people in using murder as entertainment.

I hate not being able to binge it. May just wait now until all eps are out.

Good? Murders
Hmmmm.

Who’s playing Toby Jones’s wife in this? It’s bugging me, and I can’t see anything on the cast list!
I ‘enjoyed’ it too. But wish I could binge watch it.

I did read that the police and powers that be were keen for the narrative to be Sutcliffe attacked prostitutes. This wasn’t true. He attacked anyone he could. He did attack a man, but chose not to attack any more men as the man fought back.
I enjoyed the programme.

Dorothy Atkinson. She was in Call the Midwife and Strike

Thank you @EdieLedwell
I just knew I’d seen her before (CTM)

She's also the snotty sister in law in Mum and does a lot of stuff with Mike Leigh

I thought it was very good so far, although very grim indeed. I am old enough to remember that time well.

I watched The Ripper yesterday as a prelude to this. The Ripper highlights the utter fuck up of the police in focussing on the prostitute element and the Geordie voice.

I thought both were very well done with just a few out of time elements. (the Christmas tree looked way too modern for the mid 70s)

Even so!

It was, I was a barmaid in 1975. Beer was 13 pence a pint. Petrol 33p a gallon..

70s Christmas trees 🎄 I remember as tinselly and the only glittery thing in a terminally dull era

I was 16 at the start of the Ripper murders. I lived in Bradford. I thought the programme was good and focused more on the lives of the ordinary women he murdered rather than the botched efforts of the police (although I suspect that comes later). I am not sure it was quite grim enough, not quite 70's enough. The Christmas tree and lights in the windows were wrong and the toys looked a bit more 1960's than 70s which was a pity as those small things are important if you are depicting the time accurately.

I wouldn't give a shit. He's in the pub buying pints while I'm having to part my legs for some grubby article. No thanks.

I’m watching with interest, I remember the fear the murders instilled in the north.

So far, I think it is well-pitched. Katherine Kelly is excellent.

I was stating a fact. A fiver was decent amount then.
I said the same as you did to DH as we were watching it. Nice, she’s on her back or her knees and he’s drinking her earnings.

And then she drives him home! What was the point of him even being there?

I love Daniel Mays bit really wanted to punch him.

This is different in that it centres the victims and their families, rather that PS. There are already plenty of things focussing on him. That's why this is 'good', IMHO.

I also applauded The Sixth Commandment because it focussed on Peter Farquhar, Ann Moore-Martin and their families, and not BF and MS.

I don’t know if anyone here has seen the Danish series “The Investigation” a couple of years back. Really excellent series. It was about the investigation into the “submarine murder” of Kim Wall, a really terrible case. In the series, they focused solely on the investigation itself, and the impact on the victim’s family, and not on the murderer at all. In fact, the murderer was not featured on screen and was not even named (he was only referred to as “the perpetrator”, etc). It was an unusual way to approach this sort of drama and quite refreshing, as too often IMO true life dramas feed into a kind of weird fetish about murderers. Anyway it’s well worth a watch if you’ve not seen it.

I grew up in Leeds and remember these events vividly

Not sure what I think about dramatising these murders - except for younger people to have an idea of what happened - the families are in my mind

But of the programme - some of the accents are dodgy, the sound is poor,
What they did get right was how dark it was in those days - old film footage of that time is practically pitch black

Yellow sodium Street lights and constant drizzle

I don’t know if anyone here has seen the Danish series “The Investigation” a couple of years back. Really excellent series. It was about the investigation into the “submarine murder” of Kim Wall, a really terrible case. In the series, they focused solely on the investigation itself, and the impact on the victim’s family, and not on the murderer at all.

I saw it. Best Scandi I've ever seen.

I thought it was ok but everything was very gloomy and I struggle to work out what's happening when everything is so dark.

The one thing that really annoyed me was that hardly anybody had names. I picked up that the main copper was called Dennis and a few more, but that was about it. When I looked at the credits I couldn't put names to hardly any characters.