THE WOMAN IN THE WALL. BBC 1 sun 9pm - TV PACE. NO SPOILERS

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this is a 6 part drama

1 is shown sun and then 2 on the monday

3456 the following 4 Sundays

it’s will no doubt be on iPlayer but try and not binge lovely people in my phone 😂😂😂

this will be tv paced

Ruth Wilson and Daryl McCormack are teaming up for a gripping new BBC drama, which is inspired by the horrifying revelations around Ireland's Magdalene Laundries.

The Woman In The Wall follows the horrors experienced by Lorna Brady (Ruth Wilson) is a woman from the small, fictional Irish town of Kilkinure, who wakes one morning to find a corpse in her house.

Lorna is chilled to the core as she has no idea who the dead woman is or if she could even be responsible for the apparent murder herself. This is a deadly possibility because Lorna suffers from extreme bouts of sleepwalking, which started around the time she was ripped from her life at the age of 15 and incarcerated in the Kilkinure Convent.

The Woman in the Wall follows Lorna Brady (Wilson), a woman who was incarcerated in a convent from a young age, where she traumatically gave birth – only to have the baby taken away from her to whereabouts unknown.

The awful treatment she endured continues to impact her life, causing extreme bouts of sleepwalking that end with her waking up in strange places with no memory of how she got there.

While her specific story is a work of fiction, the Magdalene Laundries were very real and are thought to have blighted the lives of tens of thousands of women.

Although their history dates back further, more is known about the practices of these institutions in the 20th century, where inmates entered via the criminal justice system, reformatory schools and the Health and Social Services sector.

Once inside, they would have to carry out unpaid labour, while many former inmates have reported being abused.

Magdalene Laundries became the subject of a media scandal in the 1990s, when a mass grave holding 155 bodies was discovered on the former grounds of one such institution in Drumcondra, Dublin.

Yes exactly, as some have said already. Wondering how much hallucinations and tiredness have played a part.

We will soon see!

We've discussed this also on the Ireland sites.

Not impressed with the stereotype of the local gardai and a few other things, like looking very out of kilter with the dates and time period.

Are you OK?

Not sure what your problem is.

I can see both

Aoife is dead in Lorna's house and Lorna has her phone. If not in the wall, where is she?

Bit random, I've had dreams about a secret room in my house so could it be abstract?

Not sure what your problem is.

You've been aggressively and repeatedly asking me where the body is @SoupDragon
I'm not the only person to have wondered how much the hallucinations played a part yet you've singled me out. That's why I asked if you were ok. Though you've been combative on other telly threads, apparently, which is ridiculous, so I'd ask you not to engage with me further. This is a just a TV thread after all.

There is only one quote here, and in any case it's me you've been haranguing about
where the body is. Three times at least now. Try reading the thread properly to see why some of us were in doubt.

I've clearly shown there are two quotes. Someone else has said there are two quotes.

You clearly have a problem. You have "aggressively and repeatedly " accused me of doing something I haven't and have been rude and insulting.

I'm not haranguing YOU about where the body is, I'm asking the question of the thread and the people who say it's not in the wall.

I've no idea what your problem with me is but I'm bowing out of this thread because you're being extremely unpleasant.

Yes but as I and some other posters here mentioned they find it distressing. I mean it’s ok if it’s mentioned on this thread too but a few are finding it triggering (not me I might add) and it takes away from the actual series itself. You could quite easily have the whole Catholic Church Catholic laundries stuff in eg Religion (is that the correct topic?).

I like hearing people's dreams 😀It's just interesting what the subconscious can invent.

On the subject of dreams… did anyone think episode 1, was slightly reminiscent of Twin Peaks but the weird part at the very end bit when Laura discovers who Bob is and there’s a room with red walls etc there?

or is it just me?!

I hate some of my worst dreams! Thank god I only dream of fluffy kittens and sparkling rainbows 🌈 now! (Joke!)

I honestly don't know you at all, and don't recognise your name.

You can also see my screenshot (you might be showing a collapsed version from your desktop) but that was a minor point anyway, it's me you've repeatedly asked where the body is and what has been done. I'd only made a one line reply to someone. Several have wondered about hallucinations, but also the answer is that we're only two episodes in and don't know where this is going yet.

Don't feel you need to leave threads. I'm sorry if you felt I was rude.

Theblacksheepandme
Respectfully, the writer said he did this to open discussions about The Magdalene Laundries. What do you want to discuss on a drama, written in order to open discussions and educate people of our tragic recent history?

Yes but as I and some other posters here mentioned they find it distressing. I mean it’s ok if it’s mentioned on this thread too but a few are finding it triggering (not me I might add) and it takes away from the actual series itself. You could quite easily have the whole Catholic Church Catholic laundries stuff in eg Religion (is that the correct topic?).

I would only say that it might be an idea for someone to start a separate thread somewhere and link it, possibly chat, just to be able to discuss it properly in detail. Catherine Corless has done some good work and continues to do so. There's a lot to discuss there alone!

It is going to be discussed to a point here anyway though given it's a big part of the drama.

You are trying to silence an Irish person into not speaking about the history of The Magdalene Laundries on a thread. You then think you have the authority in telling me where to post. Where have you read other people stating it's triggering?

Magdalene survivors were silenced for too long. I will continue to speak about this no matter how you feel. I will speak about it here if I like because as I said before, this is what the writer wanted.

The horrors of what happened must never be forgotten, which means people shouldn't be silenced due to its unpleasantness.

I find it so passive aggressive that you are saying you are ok but you're speaking for others.

You are ok watching a drama about The Magdalene Laundries, but let's not talk about the actual reality as it's too distressing and triggering. Shame on you, and you're not even brave enough to speak for yourself. You are stating that you're asking for other people. What a cowardly way to try to silence someone.

I find it triggering when people talking about abuse are asked to go elsewhere as it's an unpleasant topic.

The drama we are discussing is about the Magdelene Laundries so that's why people are talking about them on this thread.

I think it's good to talk about what actually happened

I feel quite ashamed that if didn't know of anything about the laundries till this programme was made

It's scary how real life tragedy's /situations and sorry if that's the wrong word - only come to light to so many when a programme is made about them

Same with the Ben Peter Ann - I had no idea that had happened till shown on tv

Obv when happens local
To someone they know /remember

For example I live very close to the area where a lady was cut up and put in a suitcase but many others far away may not know about that death /murder

There was a documentary on the one show about the laundries and a few mothers have teamed up to get some justice for having to give up their babies in the 60s ( not necessarily in all in Ireland , but just about the attitude of single mums and being forced to give them up for adoption)
It is sad what went on. I know people will say ' different times ' etc , but still heartbreaking

This link will show how much work the survivors have had to go through in fighting for justice.

https://www.stevenoriordan.com/magdalene-survivors-together.html

The link mentions a very good documentary called The Forgotten Maggies.

I can imagine the laundries are going to feature a lot more in the media soon.

They're about to begin, unless they have already started, trying to identify the bodies from one site (nearly 800) using DNA, and they're going to be moved from the septic tank. Thanks to the work of people like Catherine Corless.

Sorry if I upset you @Theblacksheepandme it was not my intention. Nor was I making it up. I was a student from Northern Ireland at that time, so I say police, and of course it's the gardai, though some called them the polis. Our English Literature professor told us about the Galway Magdalene Laundry and added that although it was closed down, some residents remained at the the nearby convent because they were too institutionalised to back into society.

https://galwaycitymuseum.ie/blog/collections-spotlight-bag-from-a-galway-magdalen-laundry/?locale=en#:~:text=The%20capacity%20of%20the%20Magdalen,was%20subsequently%20redeveloped%20as%20apartments.

Thanks for link @Theblacksheepandme

Sobering reading what they had to do and still have to go through to get justice

This is another interesting link.

I remember a story where a daughter found her Mother. She was completely institutionalized. She clutched an empty bag because she had nothing to put into it. Her daughter asked if she would like a coffee and she said she never had it. She had one good dress which she wore to meet her daughter. She had room and board offered by the nuns as she chose to stay with them. It reminded me of the old man in The Green Mile. She would never have been able to survive independently. I cried for the daughter because she found her Mother but she was incapable to be a Mother to her.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/mary-s-story-the-magdalene-laundry-survivor-who-still-lives-there-1.4340289

So shocking and distressing @Theblacksheepandme