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Just finished "it's a sin"

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ThatFraggle · 01/08/2023 08:19

Sobbing. I don't have anyone to tell in real life but I just wanted to say how much it moved me.

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notawittyname1954 · 04/08/2023 17:38

@Simonjt I've always felt the Olly performing and on tv is a totally different person to the real Olly. I've heard he is very shy in real life and has a very sensitive side.

notawittyname1954 · 04/08/2023 17:40

I also think that maybe if we had had more episodes other characters might have been more developed. I'm just glad it got made and will remember it always.

beguilingeyes · 04/08/2023 19:35

I know that originally it was supposed to be eight episodes and almost everybody turned it down. Then Channel 4 would only give them five (I bet they regret that now), so a lot was probably cut.

thelengthspeoplegoto · 04/08/2023 22:51

Pringleface · 01/08/2023 09:10

I loved It’s A Sin so much that I watched the whole thing again not long after watching it the first time. An outstanding piece of TV.

I did too and have watched it again since. I loved it, so poignant.

thelengthspeoplegoto · 04/08/2023 23:26

The scene where Ritchie does the ballet move (plié?) so touching.

gingersnappz · 04/08/2023 23:34

Just found this thread and have rewatched as I loved it so much the first time....has anyone else noticed that they out Philip Schofield in episode 3?!!

Ryvitas · 05/08/2023 06:55

Yes I noticed that!!

Pippylongstock · 05/08/2023 07:28

It absolutely broke me in the best possible way. Loved it. I feel myself welling up again just thinking about the end and I watched it ages ago.

Don’t agree with some of the comments on Jill. She was a deeply empathetic person who loved her friends.

Blahblahgingerbreadlady · 05/08/2023 10:39

IwantToRetire · 04/08/2023 17:37

I know from having commented at the time that I found this series really aggravating.

First of all focusing on an ever so cute young male behaving irresponsibly (and yes shown at the time of Covid when people were "obeying" the rules) was bizarre. But typical of a writer (as with many tv shows) who thinks a hero/ine who is just so charming but fucks up everyone else lives is something to admire. ie the sort of person that 10 people would drown trying to save and everyone would go on about how lovely the person saved was and ignore the 10 people who drowned.

As personified by a throw away remark in some cafe(?) about who were all those boring people dressed in black having a serious conversation (such a downer) and when being told they were the people who were actively campaigning and trying to educate about HIV / Aids just got a shrug.

A film about them would have been praiseworthy. But no. So boring to be doing the right thing and helping others.

And the women's roles. Talk about hand maidens. And of course the dreaded mother. All her fault.

I'm not saying the situation wasn't really terrible, but is this the best way to represent it.

But from such a reactionary male writer I'm not surprised.

Oh for goodness sake. You have seriously missed the point here and it’s a bit sad.

Whenwillglorioussummercome · 13/08/2023 10:05

IwantToRetire · 04/08/2023 17:37

I know from having commented at the time that I found this series really aggravating.

First of all focusing on an ever so cute young male behaving irresponsibly (and yes shown at the time of Covid when people were "obeying" the rules) was bizarre. But typical of a writer (as with many tv shows) who thinks a hero/ine who is just so charming but fucks up everyone else lives is something to admire. ie the sort of person that 10 people would drown trying to save and everyone would go on about how lovely the person saved was and ignore the 10 people who drowned.

As personified by a throw away remark in some cafe(?) about who were all those boring people dressed in black having a serious conversation (such a downer) and when being told they were the people who were actively campaigning and trying to educate about HIV / Aids just got a shrug.

A film about them would have been praiseworthy. But no. So boring to be doing the right thing and helping others.

And the women's roles. Talk about hand maidens. And of course the dreaded mother. All her fault.

I'm not saying the situation wasn't really terrible, but is this the best way to represent it.

But from such a reactionary male writer I'm not surprised.

The comments about the safe sex campaigners are partly the answer to the questions upthread about promiscuity.

In the late 70s and early 80s public health professionals were seriously concerned about the spread of STDs in parts of the gay community, particularly at that point Hep B. But unfortunately (not too dissimilar to mask wearing I guess) the whole issue was politicised. After the legalisation of homesexuality in many countries, any attempt to restrict the hedonistic promiscuous lifestyle was seen as homophobic or repressive. There were voices all along saying that unprotected sex with many partners was a very bad idea but they were ignored or shouted down.

Even after AIDS emerged, this was still an issue. When San Francisco closed the famous bath houses, there remained opposition from within the gay community, even with the evidence that they were acting as infection vectors and people were dying.

That line of dialogue was a nod to all that. How politics interfere with science.

I think there is a generation of people now in their 50s/40s who were very marked by AIDS and the fear of it, who see safe sex as hugely important. Don’t Die Of Ignorance burned in our brains here in the UK. But people younger who have grown up in an era of effective treatment for HIV don’t have that so much and STDs are rising again, as has already been stated.

I do see some of the parallels between HIV and Covid but I do think medical staff have come a long way, even if the population hasn’t. Isolating Covid patients was about method of transmission more than anything else. We knew HIV wasn’t airborne a long time before people dying with AIDS were treated better. And there was very definitely worse treatment of gay men and drug users, who had brought HIV on themselves, rather than the ‘innocent victims’ who contracted it via blood transfusions. A lot of othering went on.

Kiza7 · 17/09/2023 23:18

I've just watched this and I've cried for hours fantastic show but completely heart breaking 💔

beguilingeyes · 18/09/2023 08:25

I went to see La Cage Aux Folles in Regent's Park last week and Callum Scott Howells walked past me.
I wish I'd had a chance to tell how much I loved his Colin but by the time I realised who it was he was gone.

MarkWithaC · 18/09/2023 19:00

I agree it was tainted for me by Jill as the 'angel in the house', forever in the kitchen looking after all these young men who were busy being fabulous, without having much of a life of her own.

I wasn't wowed by a lot of the acting either. I thought Keeley Hawes was jaw-droppingly brilliant, though, especially in her late scenes after Ritchie died.
And Colin's story was utterly heartbreaking and his and his mum's performances were terrific.

Babysharkdoodoodood · 18/09/2023 21:16

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 01/08/2023 09:18

Another one still thinking about it 2 years later.

It starts the month I went to secondary school (in central London). I said to DM when IAS was first shown, how I felt like I'd had a very high seat in the upper, upper stalls of a very big theatre, watching the culture portrayed evolve. She said, completely deadpan "Ibiza, they were my friends". I later realised that a couple of family friends were gay men who died of AIDS. DM had sat with one of them as he died.

I'm like your mum. So many friends died. It was a bloody awful time, but also a fantastic time with the scene exploding in london. Such a dichotomy.

I sobbed all the way through knowing what was happening but it was an amazing series.

Mouthfulofquiz · 18/09/2023 21:23

i sobbed and sobbed at the end of this. I have a couple of close family members who are gay men. The thought of the suffering broke my heart.

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