Home and Away, fancy a pizza and a beer at Salt? We can set the Bay to rights on the balcony...

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So Zig and Dean have left, leaving lonely Mack with just Mali to walk in on in the bathroom. Remi loves Bree and Cash loves Eden, Tane married Flic and Leah hasn't dumped Justin yet. Kirby loves Theo and that's about it.

But who'll love who by page 40....

Yes the first look is shown at 630 day before.

She did look lovely. Not sure about Xanders outfit!

Yes - but you had me confused mentioning the lunchtime episode. I tend to miss one day and then watch 2 together etc.
I dislike red as a colour, so all of those outfits (and I didn't particularly like Felicity's I'm sorry to say) and evening dress in bright sunshine would give me a headache in real life.
So now the ethically-dodgy patient-doctor romance begins. (I think I called it already...)
Home and Away is so predictable. (Sigh)
Apart from Remy "dying" [I really thought he did.]

Ah sorry.

I sometimes watch the lunch time one as I’ve not paid attention to the 630 one!

I didn't like Xanders suit either and I thought Felicity's dress looked like a nightie

It did didnt it!

Are they getting back together?

I don't know if they will get back together but I don't think they will.

I think they will....

Question; does anyone else notice hair (lack of) continuity?
Felicity's beachy waves certainly dropped a lot - although I'm never sure how their weather impacts the ability to keep on top of things like that.
And of course, it's never a "problem" for the men - except maybe John with his follicular abundance; but doubtless never an issue for Alf 😍

Yeah I suppose it's hard sometimes to keep on top of their hair depending on how humid it is at the time

Yes ---- my hair would last five minutes just on a beach, never mind actually in the water.

It is something I always notice.... on a Casualty episode a week or so ago, I noticed Stevie got some curls put in between a life-saving procedure and a mental breakdown.

I think I noticed it on Felicity becuase there was great emphasis on the slow-motion descent of the stairs, and Tane's goo-goo eyes. But a little while later, and her hair - like her mood - had fallen a bit flat 😔

Yes same with my hair. It was hard to keep it from turning to frizz when I was in Australia, but my hair is a bloody high maintenance pain

Ha ---- yes, I know the feeling. I went to Florida - straight into issues, and hadn't given it a thought.... ugh. From there to the Bimini (Bahamas), and on a yacht each day, looking for dolphins, with lingering hurricane weather.... Not ONE good hair day. Not one!
(For some reason, loads of volume when I came back though, which lasted a few weeks.)
I would never look good in Summer Bay.

I think Bree has the best hair for the environment - beachy waves all the time anyway.

Yes it's a pain isn't it. I also went dolphin spotting.
Your holiday sounds amazing though. Totally with you on the hair thing, I just wish I had hair that would do what I wanted, it only looks nice when done at the salon

It sounds better than it was - although it had lovely moments. It was not glamorous at all, and the now there is a massive development at the top of the island we went to, which was like a Robinson Crusoe deserted island when I was there, so would not appeal to me now.

We did not see the dolphins (wild spotted ones, they are quite a way out) until the last day of going out - and guess who felt (but wasn't) seasick due to the high swells. The yacht was a lovely "stable" catamaran, but definitely not Below Deck size, of course.
When the dolphins did finally show themselves, they did let us in the water with them, and swam and leapt alongside and in front of the boat. It was magical, even though only on the last day.

Braids in my hair saved me from looking perpetually bedraggled (as did all of us, to be honest). If I went again, I think I would do a buzz cut - so simple to deal with!

I will be back to H&A comments when I have caught up!

Omg sounds amazing, I've always wanted to swim with dolphins.
Shame about the development, hate it when they spoil things like that.
I have been wanting to go back to Australia ever since I came home, didn't want to leave.
Just caught up with tomorrow's ep

I would love to go again, were it not for the development. I did like the rustic ambience, but I suppose, the tourism would help the island (Bimini). I have no clue how people get there now; we went on a small seaplane ---- one of which crashed later the same year, due to (!) poor maintenance. Customs was just a one-room shed.
Australia looks so fabulous, I have never been - but did go close (over?), to Auckland to stay with my father and his family. A disaster on a personal level, but a lovely lovely place.

Anyway! H&A - ugh, I hate the Tane and (I don't know her name, and I am watching as I write this) Social Worker "romance" [and we all know it will be, in the end - he didn't rein himself in to save 'Felicity's' feelings, but because he made a horrible faux pas - what would he have done if SW had been more receptive I wonder??] Please, make it stop!! I have no sympathy for anyone except Felicity , and I want Tane to go an set up a new gym somewhere else - preferably on his plot of land in NZ.

Remy's situation is also awful for all parties; Brie is so strung out, she will do more harm than good, and Dr Levi is in a terrible position. I do feel for him.

I'm struggling to be interested in the Leah storyline, but maybe I can dredge up some interest when she comes back. But poor Justin

Oh god, that's bad about the plane! Pretty scary to hear I bet.
Australia is amazing, I would love to see more of it. Sydney is so stunning and Palm beach is amazing as well. Every time I watch H&A I just want to be back there.
NZ looks lovely as well, sorry it was under bad personal circumstances.

I agree, have no sympathy for Tane, it's his own fault, putting pressure on Felicity after everything, after agreeing he would accept she didn't want children, married her anyway. Gone off him. Not really interested in Harper either, think that's her name. Prefer her sister, the nurse.

Feel for poor Remy, glad the guys that caused the crash were caught

Tane is an idiot.

I hope Harper doesn’t go there.

NZ is fabulous. And I liked Australia too. But think I preferred NZ.

I do wonder though what indigenous Australians think when H&A show a lot of Maori customs and songs but not theirs. I’d be annoyed if it was my culture not represented.

Mali is aboriginal isn’t he? I hope they show more esp if his sister ever turns up (again?)

Yes, I wasn't worried about the plane at all, whereas a fellow traveller needed to hold my hand for entire short journey.

(It turned out the planes were very well past their sell-by date. All passengers and crew were killed just before Christmas. very sad and disconcerting.)

The long flights to the Antipodes are the tough part, aren't they? - even for the lovely destinations. My 8 year old daughter was absolutely fine, and we did get upgraded to First Class for the first leg (to Japan - the only child on a full 747); so the second, with Air New Zealand felt like a sardine can by comparison. The tiredness hit her when we were at my father's house - and she burst into tears after being offered a plate of spinach - after nearly two full days of travelling - by my stepmother, who she had never met before (ditto my father).
Overall though, the trip - over Christmas and New Year - was a disaster, but the place itself was beautiful (we were about 15 miles from Auckland), and we did make some lovely friends.

Anyway - yep, Tane is an absolute fool; shame on him. I hope Felicity can be strong through the inevitable relationship between him and SW (and SHE has no honour if she, despite protestations of "I care about you - you're the only friend I have in the Bay...." (oh, blah blah). It was very sad to see her bravely put away the rings and photograph, after such a short time, and the love she put into the vows so recently. He is a very weak and selfish man.

Hm, I hadn't fully though about the Aboriginal/Māori imbalance... and yes, Mali's family were very strong in their cultural beliefs, so it would be interesting to see more of that. There is no mention of Australia's indigenous people - might that be a reflection of the "reality" of Summer Bay, I wonder?

The singing to Remy by Kirby was lovely and of her heritage well, I'm guessing. Given the pain he's in now, it would have been better to stay unconscious though 🤗

I wonder if it’s a reflection of how Australia views its indigenous people.

Haning been to both the difference in treatment and respect was astounding.
eg Maori is considered an equal language.
The recent vote in Australia to include aboriginal reps in important groups (sorry I don’t know the specifics) was turned down.

I do hope Mali and family represent more Aboriginal culture and customs.

Oh my goodness that's terrible about the people on the plane, just awful 😞

Oh absolutely, that was the worst part, the long flight, it really drains you, i wished we could have afforded first class, or business, economy on a long haul, even with a brief stop was hard. Bless your daughter.
Such a shame your trip wasn't great.

I agree, Tane is very selfish. Feel so sorry for Felicity.

Yes I think the treatment of the aborigines is horrible, they are the true Australians after all, I feel so bad for them. New Zealand respect the indigenous people and their culture, I don't understand why the majority of the Australians don't.

Just watched Monday's ep, really not a fan of Tane anymore, such a twat right now

Yes, so very very sad - and just before Christmas.

Well, look at us, discussing topics that H&A don't expect the audience to consider.... Very interesting to think about.

In the small town where my father lived, he and his (South African as it happened) friends discussed the Māori people in a terrible way. He is a bigot as well as a snob, so not a surprise - but I was very shocked by his awful attitude. My daughter and I spent a lot of time stealing borrowing one his cars to escape the atmosphere in the (admittedly very nice) house.

The little bit of indigenous culture I have seen, impresses me enormously - but agree that on H&A, they should have a more equal balance; I hope it isn't a true reflection of how the culture is regarded in general in Australia.

I always preferred Ari, of the brothers anyway - and found his death so very sad.
Not to be too shallow, but Tane is overdone on the bodybuilding front, which does not (imo) qualify him to be an all-round Trainer. I don't like it when they get that look of another head and shoulders emerging out of their original neck/shoulders (I'm not describing it very well...), and he really is behaving like a lunkhead. Colour me unimpressed by the direction of this storyline; I am definitely rooting for Felicity💕

Team felicity too. But she’s cycled through it really fast!

Agree I liked Ari too and his death was so sad.

Im glad you managed to get time away from your father’s opinions. @BadMotorhomeParent

She has, hasn't she - the nature of soap opera drama.... Not a true reflection of the full range of human emotions really. I predict a flare-up again though, when Tane "moves on", even more blatantly than he already has - let alone when there is a divorce in the pipeline (unless that is remarkably easy too).

Yes., the trip was all kinds of wrong. Half way around the world, two 11 hour flights, plenty of advance warning of times (he had actually booked it, although I paid for us), all flights on schedule, a short drive from their town to the Airport..... and my little girl and I walked through Arrivals ---- to ......[crickets]......
We waited like fools in the Airport McDonalds (didn't eat), and were chastised for sitting in a junk food restaurant (see my earlier note about spinach).

Fortunately, one of my (half-)brothers was dating a girl from a wonderful family, who lived in the nearby countryside, and when my father "forgot" that children were not allowed to attend the NYE function he had booked, they babysat my daughter at their house, and after that we spent all our time there, with the lovely setting, the six daughters, animals, tree houses and a lot of fun, and most of all, the kindest and warmest welcome and hospitality.

I am still persona non-grata with him over it - and my daughter is 35!

He is the one who thinks I am persona non-grata, that is. Very easy for him though.

What are thoughts on Remy's recovery/future? And Bree's sanity, for that matter.....😞