Kids

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Is anyone watching this? It follows the lives of kids who have left the care system in Coventry.

I actually thought that the situations were more nuanced than just bad parenting. Xorin was in a county lines type situation. He’s not the first kid and his parents not the first parent to have a child groomed away from them. Her parenting style sure as heck isn’t mine but being foul mouthed and fagging it isn’t why he was groomed. He was removed for his own safety to get him away from the dealers and a mum who couldn’t cope.

annabelle seemed an old head on young shoulders but she’s gone straight back to the environment she was removed from, had a child alone and young and didn’t, from this clip, seem to have the support of the father. She deserves all the breaks however, she is also making choices that leave her vulnerable.

on a lighter note, is Holly Willoughby her social worker support?

Exactly. Kelly's parenting or maybe who she is, might not be like me or you but she was doing ok on the programme. She's not perfect but that's not the point is it.

Although the bit about where it explained how Xorin was taken into care. It said he called her a fat fucking bitch then she hit him?
So it sounded like he was taken straightaway after one incident?
I know there was obviously more stuff going on with him but they made it sound like that was why he got taken away.
I thought maybe they might work with them more before that?

I have to say @Makingupfactstosuitmyagenda I didn't think she looked like Holly Willoughby 🤣🤣

Oh yes and also it said Kelly was done for emotional abuse to Xorin. Not sure if that is criminal court or that was the reason he was taken off her. It didn't go into details on that.
I was interested but I see why they didn't

It sounded terrifying what Annabel said about when she was taken away. Having the police come and handcuff your mum and dad and then you get taken away

The whole programme terrifies me, having your child taken away

@purpleme12 yes, the account of Xorion’s removal was a little opaque; it was an emergency intervention due to the gang exploitation but his mother was taken to court for abuse too yet all that is mentioned is one slap and mental health problems. Not very clear was
it and leaves you wondering.

Trust me - children are not taken from parents for nothing .

In fact it's bloody nigh on impossible to get social care to act mostly .

There are some people out there who cannot or do not know how to nurture or look after a child .

Annabelle said she read 2 documents on her circumstances and couldn't read any more - living in squalor with parents who let them do what they wanted - the only thing that SHOULD terrify you is knowing g there are people out there who do t give a shit or are too clueless to understand how to raise a child .

I've seen real squalor. Dire dire conditions that have required CSI to come and document it - baths full of excrement because toilets aren't working, children crawling g with lice and fleas , one at deaths door where we got there just in time to prevent a 3 year olds death .

The police and social workers shouldn't scare you . The people that do this should .

I’ve just watched the first one on catch-up and now watching the second.
I’m a foster carer and seeing kids leaving at 18 is heartbreaking.
My daughter has just started a new job, our local council is investing more money supporting families before they reach the point of losing their children.
Years of lack of investment, families breaking down, parents just not knowing how to parent, not knowing how to cook cheaply and not being able to budget has led to our children being left with a terrible start.

No wonder depression, suicide and mental illness is on the rise.

So glad things turned out well for you. All credit to you.
I’ve only watched the first episode but I agree about Annabelle & her parents. I did wonder if they might have a learning disability. I’ve worked with similar people in the past. They just seemed to have no insight or skills to manage.
I thought the pp comment about Kelly ‘rough as a badgers arse’ was quite funny. Also her shouting at Boris Johnson on the TV- agree that’s he’s an overweight privileged white c**t or words to that effect. I found her relationship with Xorin quite touching in a way. She did clearly love him & was devastated that he got removed from her.

I'm on the third one now!

I think annabelles mum has a learning disability, I don't think the father does though.

You could be right there. Just started watching the 3rd episode. Havana ❤️.

Watched second one

Awwwwww ❤️Byron ! These kids are amazing. Well done Byron .

What a beautiful talented girl I can't believe her mum isn't interested. She will go far in life.

Just started 3rd one and Havana is such a lovely bubbly mature young lady ! Her piano playing is amazing!

I think I have it in me to foster . I think when my career is done it's something I'd look into .

I was fostered and it would be so nice to give that back

I was taken into care at 11 and also do t know who my dad is .

I was married at 19 and had kids very young - but was also an old head on young shoulders .

My kids are my greatest success and they know very little of my history.

I think if we're to look into fostering now my dd would be upset and jealous but maybe down the line .....if I can get some health issues addressed.

My friend is adopting- and we as a community are
Planning g a baby shower for her when she gets the word ! We do t care how old her "baby" is goi g to be ! We're throwing her a baby shower !

I tried a direct access request. My files are gone !

Just finished the series and feel so uplifted and so proud for those kids - what amazing , generous, sweet , sorted kids they are.

I hope they're all still doing amazing.

I just finished it too. Such an emotional program & such amazing young people. It will stay with me a while. I have so much respect for all the foster carers, support workers & social workers too.

I had tears , Xorins mum should have asked the council to assist her to be rehoused in South Wales. Xorin said he was happy and at peace there. Get her son away from the gangs. I would be scared he was going back to the area.

Xorin's mum really didn't take responsibility for her part in Xorin going into care. When the interviewer asked him why he went into care he said something along the lines of 'so many things happened before it came to that' but when she was asked she said he called her a fat bitch and so she slapped him. SS wouldn't be happy for a parent to slap a cheeky teenager but they wouldn't remove the kid for one incident like that. A lot of other things must have happened in that home before those boys were removed.

And she was a bit silly claiming she and Xorin had a 10/10 relationship when he'd been in care for 4 years and living 100 miles away. Of course there were going to be issues getting used to each other again. And claiming there was nothing wrong with her parenting. Well Xorin was much more realistic in his score about that.

I'm a foster carer. My two foster kids, now teenagers, have been with me 9 years. They are much less streetwise than Xorin. But also, hopefully, much more protected from things like being groomed by drug gangs.

I think a lot of damage comes from being moved around foster families. And kids in care homes have to be tough and put up barriers.

I like to think that when my two get to 18 they'll still be with me. But blood is thicker than water and the lure of birth family is very strong for these kids. I would have liked to have known if Annabelle had a foster parent still in her life. It was sad really how she totally understood her parents' failings but also felt the need to stay close to them and visit them often.

It seemed to me that her mum only got pregnant once Annabelle did as she was jealous. It was funny that in the last 13 years she hadn't had another baby but suddenly as soon as her daughter was, so was she.

Maybe she was ashamed? Possibly why someone might want to minimise what happened on a programme that lots of people will watch?

Just watching episode one. Annabelle’s parents are a disgrace and shouldn’t be allowed to have more children. Feral and ignorant, what a cheek to suggest Annabelle could care for the baby!!!