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Endeavour 9th & final season starts 26 February 2023 at 8pm on ITV

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IwantToRetire · 19/02/2023 18:44

2023’s final trilogy of films will find Endeavour and Thursday entering a new era of change both professionally and personally.

Set in the spring of 1972, the final season’s opening episode is directed by none other than Endeavour star Shaun Evans.

The synopsis for the story reads: “Two unexplained deaths turn up ties to the Oxford Concert Orchestra, while a body discovered in a derelict warehouse stokes fears that ‘London business’ has yet again found its way to Oxford.

“Thursday and Endeavour’s investigation unearths some unsettling connections to cases the duo believed were well and truly behind them.”

britishperioddramas.com/news/endeavour-season-9-release-date-itv-february-2023/

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CaptainMyCaptain · 14/03/2023 17:38

diddl · 14/03/2023 17:36

In some ways I think it's a shame that Joan & Strange married as it puts a connection between Morse & Strange that isn't there.

I think there's a15 year gap so anything could have happened. Joan didn't look madly in love with Strange to me.

IwantToRetire · 14/03/2023 17:53

I think there is a connection between Strange and Morse / Endeavour which is their work ie being police men.

Strange played by the rules because he saw it as his chance to get ahead, and even used the rules of joining the Freemasons.

And even though he didn't always understand Morse he appreciated his police work and helping him aspire to get ahead.

I think in later life Strange just got really fed up with Morse constantly not attempting to fit in, being an awkward b-, and from his point of view wasting his personal life. He may never have been aware of Endeavour's idealistic infatuation with Joan.

And he was the one who was there with Morse when he died.

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diddl · 14/03/2023 18:05

And he was the one who was there with Morse when he died.

Yes-shame it wasn't Joyce in a way!

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 14/03/2023 18:58

I'm going on a Morse tour in July!

Annamariefl · 14/03/2023 20:21

Who is Joyce? I didn’t remember a lot of the characters and will have to watch again from scratch. I have Joyce Barnaby on my head now!

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 14/03/2023 20:23

Annamariefl · 14/03/2023 20:21

Who is Joyce? I didn’t remember a lot of the characters and will have to watch again from scratch. I have Joyce Barnaby on my head now!

Isn't she Morse's sister?

Jackiebrambles · 14/03/2023 20:54

I’ve decided to watch Morse again and I’m on episode 2. His heavy drinking is a common theme! I’m loving the details, Lewis just bought them two pints for £1.88 and gasped at the price. Then Morse took out a lady to the pub and she ordered a cinzano and lemonade.

Jackiebrambles · 14/03/2023 20:55

Have only seen Strange once so far and there was definite affection between them, at least at the start! He took him for a drink when he didn’t get a promotion.

IwantToRetire · 14/03/2023 20:57

Oh that makes more sense. I thought it was a typo, but then surely Joan couldn't have turned up after all this time.

Well remembered by the way!

Joyce Garrett (née Morse) is the younger half-sister of Detective Chief Inspector Endeavour Morse, the wife of Keith Garrett, the mother of Marilyn Garrett and Wayne Garrett and the daughter of Cyril and Gwen Morse. Joyce appears in Inspector Morse episode Cherubim and Seraphim was portrayed by Sorcha Cusack and Endeavour episode Home was portrayed by Sonya Cassidy. She and Morse have a good relationship unlike his relationship with his stepmother Gwen, who hates him, because of the love his father has for his mother Constance. Joyce's daughter Marilyn took her own life due to accidental drug overdose caused by the pills supplied by Desmond Collier.

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Timesawastin · 14/03/2023 22:41

Twazique · 14/03/2023 12:57

If you love Roger Allam he is fantastic in Cabin Pressure on Radio 4. You can download it on Audible. I always listen to it while flying!

I liked that the silhouette of Endeavour mirrored the silhouette of Morse at the end of the first Morse episode. I also liked the change near the end to close ups of faces, especially when Endeavour said 'Is that all' to the conductor, very much in the filming style of Morse with lots of close ups. Made a nice visual transition.

Yes! Best radio sitcom EVER

diddl · 15/03/2023 08:40

Jackiebrambles · 14/03/2023 20:55

Have only seen Strange once so far and there was definite affection between them, at least at the start! He took him for a drink when he didn’t get a promotion.

I think there is but I suppose I'm thinking that there's also a personal connection there what with them both having worked for so many years with Jim's FIL!

Well there would be if Thursday had been a Dexter character iyswim.

Twazique · 15/03/2023 17:26

I am rewatching Morse as well.

justasking111 · 15/03/2023 18:10

Delighted to find Morse on tvx. Will have a watch tonight

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/03/2023 18:11

Twazique · 15/03/2023 17:26

I am rewatching Morse as well.

I'm currently on series 4 of Endeavour. The writing is so clever with so many little bits that I missed at the time but run through it all.

When I've watched Exeunt again I'll watch Morse.

IwantToRetire · 15/03/2023 18:14

Doesn't Morse seem really crass after Endeavour?

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RaraRachael · 15/03/2023 18:50

IwantToRetire · 15/03/2023 18:14

Doesn't Morse seem really crass after Endeavour?

I suppose it was "of its day" before people realised that a lot of things that were supposedly acceptable were not.

Jackiebrambles · 15/03/2023 21:17

Not crass, old fashioned certainly. I’m loving seeing all the old 80s actors. I’m only a couple of episodes in but people seem to be continuously going on about him being a bachelor, and he’s constantly after a drink too!

GCAcademic · 15/03/2023 21:19

It was really strange seeing a very young Roger Allan in Morse in the clip they showed during Sunday’s documentary.

GCAcademic · 15/03/2023 21:19

Allam

Jackiebrambles · 15/03/2023 21:24

Yes I’m looking forward to that one. The one I just watched had Trigger in it!

IwantToRetire · 15/03/2023 23:44

Sorry crass probably wasn't the best word. I think I almost mean crude in the way it is filmed and written.

I said this because when I re-watched Endeavour from the start to be ready for the last series, what I had first time round taken for complex plots, in fact seemed as much to be about the way it is filmed and also the representation (not always correct) of the period. That it created an atmosphere in each episode which made it seem perhaps deeper than it actually was. And has kept us talking.

It may be that I never really liked Morse, and I know they did you some scenic touches. Especially the pub by the river at early evening.

But maybe yes, the way Morse was made was representative of the time. But Endeavour isn't of its time. It is more (as film reviewers say - I have googled it) the series is an "homage" and like the literary and music references, full of visual references.

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Crumpetdisappointment · 16/03/2023 06:47

i always loved Morse but watched it fairly recently.
so old fashioned
but as said Of its time

RaraRachael · 16/03/2023 08:55

If I rated the 3 Morse related series it would be -
1 Morse
2 Lewis
3 Endeavour

With the first 2 the episodes seem to pass quickly buf I found Endeavour quite a chore to watch for 2 hours.

Clawdy · 16/03/2023 09:09

For me:
Endeavour
Morse
Lewis
But I did really like them all.

KrasiTime · 16/03/2023 09:38

Morse will always be my favourite. I switch between Lewis & Endeavour.