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Anyone watching 'Maxine' on Channel 5?

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AnApparitionQuipped · 11/10/2022 19:56

I watched the first one last night - wondered what people thought. The acting seems a bit over the top; if Ian and Maxine had behaved that suspiciously in real life, I would have thought they'd have been arrested immediately.

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IdrisElbow · 14/10/2022 22:33

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girlfriend44 · 14/10/2022 22:35

AnApparitionQuipped · 11/10/2022 20:27

Yes, 9-10pm Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I quite enjoyed last night's episode, though as I said, the acting was a bit OTT. It shone an interesting light on the dysfunctional relationship between Ian and Maxine. There seems to be a deliberate (and understandable) minimisation of focus on the murder victims and their parents.

Enjoyed it really ?
Murder of two young girls by an evil piece of work.

girlfriend44 · 14/10/2022 22:36

JessesMum777888 · 11/10/2022 20:44

Have you never watched any documentaries on serial killers or anything ?

Why should she want too?
More uplifting to watch a concert or a comedy show or some sport.

girlfriend44 · 14/10/2022 22:42

Namechanger1002 · 13/10/2022 17:41

At the end when the reporter tracked her down years later, and you could hear a child playing in the background, he asked her if she knew he had killed Holly and Jessica - her reply was ‘no comment’ do you think it was because she was wary of reporters, wary of possibly her new identity being found out or because she did know but didn’t want to say? (I appreciate this may not have actually happened)
I agree with the pp who said they would like to know what she is like now. The media suggests she is married with a child and her husband knows her past. I do find it interesting to ponder what kind of people they have turned into. Same with Mary Bell. Do they think about their actions much? Will they tell their children the truth? How much support/help have they received? (Whether you agree or not that they should have help and support)
I find it fascinating what makes people behave like this - and the more we find out then surely that helps looks for signs in people to reduce the chance it happening again in the future. Does that make sense?

No it dosent why should you invest so much time worrying about people who aren't nice.
Think about nice people instead.

Floweryflora · 15/10/2022 08:03

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No it won’t have been her. For the two years after release she was under police guard and stayed in about 20 safe houses. They kept moving her. She won’t have been on a leisure Center

Floweryflora · 15/10/2022 08:27

I do find it interesting to ponder what kind of people they have turned into

me too, I have a neighbour, the house is detached, large wrap around garden, a couple of mins to walk to a nearest neighbour. Not overlooked at all, close to a main city and a main road, security cameras installed around the house as soon as they moved in. The woman doesn’t integrate, in fact if you inadvertently see her and say hi she turns her head away fast.. She works from home . Very vocal on neighbour group chat. But won’t integrate in person. Won’t even say hi. Husband more friendly, teenage kids will quickly say hi and smile but that’s it. No integration from any of them. She’s the same age as Maxine would be mid forties. I couldn’t pick this neighbour out of a line up, in the couple of times I’ve seen her in the last three years or so she’s quickly turned away so I can’t see her face. She’s not disfigured or anything.

now it’s not Maxine carr. I’m guessing it’s severe social anxiety or something, But it got me thinking, if you were granted life time anonymity there is a good chance that’s exactly how you’d live.

So I suspect she’s in a small community close to main city, close to some others, but still really quite isolated, in a detached house, not over looked, a lot of security cameras /alarms, works from home, always has, doesn’t integrate in person with others and will look very different to what she did at the time,, so straight hair not curly, different cut, different colour ie blonde or red head and not brunette, solid middle class family appearance. . Style of clothing also very different. Just a different personna and not remotely living where anyone has thought she is.

NutbushShittyLimits · 15/10/2022 08:56

Who’d be paying for that you reckon Floweryflora?
Better not be tax payers money.

I saw that documentary Norwichmummy. They’ve skimmed over the facts over the years to spare the public I think. What he did to them was horrific, and he’d raped and abused young women before. He was notorious in Grimsby for his behaviour apparently.

Apparently even Peter Sutcliff was appalled by the crimes!

Morph22010 · 16/10/2022 07:25

AnApparitionQuipped · 14/10/2022 16:48

What I am saying is that it would be heinous done by either sex, but because Carr is female, her notoriety has endured longer than it would have if she had been male.

Colin pitchfork who was convicted of killing two girls in Leicestershire in the 80s and the first person to be convicted using dna had someone go and give a sample on his behalf in the mass testing, this person was later jailed but I have no idea of his name know, he just isn’t well know at all in same way Maxine carr is

Morph22010 · 16/10/2022 07:30

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There were rumours just after she was released thst she’d moved to the village next to ours. It escalated to the extend that police had to put out a warning and a statement saying it wasn’t her as some poor woman that had a vague resemblance was getting hassled

SirCharlesRainier · 16/10/2022 09:49

NutbushShittyLimits · 15/10/2022 08:56

Who’d be paying for that you reckon Floweryflora?
Better not be tax payers money.

I saw that documentary Norwichmummy. They’ve skimmed over the facts over the years to spare the public I think. What he did to them was horrific, and he’d raped and abused young women before. He was notorious in Grimsby for his behaviour apparently.

Apparently even Peter Sutcliff was appalled by the crimes!

I'd be okay with taxpayers paying for that @NutbushShittyLimits. If we the public can't manage to keep our hands off someone who's served their time and been deemed worthy of release, then frankly it's on us to make her safe.

The crazy behaviour described by @Morph22010 shows just why it's necessary.

NeedWineNow · 16/10/2022 14:19

My brother is a police officer and worked on this case. He said it is the one case that haunts him, and the details are much worse than were ever revealed. There was a feeling that Maxine was far more involved than was thought, but there just wasn't that crucial piece of evidence to be sure of getting a conviction.

Floweryflora · 16/10/2022 15:17

NutbushShittyLimits · 15/10/2022 08:56

Who’d be paying for that you reckon Floweryflora?
Better not be tax payers money.

I saw that documentary Norwichmummy. They’ve skimmed over the facts over the years to spare the public I think. What he did to them was horrific, and he’d raped and abused young women before. He was notorious in Grimsby for his behaviour apparently.

Apparently even Peter Sutcliff was appalled by the crimes!

It is us, the tax payer, apparently cost to date to protect her anonymity is 2.5million. . But remember her husband and likely her, work and as such earn a salary to pay for themselves.. She’s a whole new identity now.

but yes, that’s where I think she will be, somewhere main city police can get to her fast, but living in relative seclusion , close neighbours, but not close enough, detached house, security cameras surrounding the houses, not overlooked, working from home, no physical integration with neighbours and will look different now. Different hair colour, different style, different dress presentation ie from working class to middle or something.

as said, the woman next to me made me think of it. She’s just a home bod with social anxiety or something, she’s the same age, it’s not her, but if I see her which has been a couple of times only she turns her face away and doesn’t say hi back, we have neighbours for drinks, she doesn’t come, not even to say hi and for a quick drink. Always an excuse, the only neighbour not to show. Security cameras were installed round the house as soon as they moved in. To be honest it’s odd. Mines also a bit thick and absolutely bloody paranoid about intruders from her group chat. We all find it odd. there is only a few houses, but that’s the sort of set up I reckon Carr is in now.

A low crime, relatively secluded, affluent private area with no passers by, detached house, distant enough from neighbours and not over looked, High levels of home security , a different appearance, working from home, Physical social isolation. Shopping delivered, takeaways delivered, doesn’t go out in public Really. She won’t be where any one would guess her to be.

@NeedWineNow I believe that. At the time there were rumours she helped him dispose of the bodies, and cover it up. She was given anonymity because the court decided she was not guilty of assisting him.

MrsTumblebee · 16/10/2022 19:05

Morph22010 · 11/10/2022 21:30

i can’t quite remember but didn’t he refer to the girls in the past tense and it was before the point there bodies had been found so no one knew for sure they were dead then?

I think it was Maxine who referred to them in the past tense.

MrsTumblebee · 16/10/2022 19:15

Brian Farmer is the name of the journalist who also raised suspicions about Ian Huntley and there are plenty of interviews with him available on line.

thelionthewitchtheaudacityofTHISbitch · 16/10/2022 20:09

sheepandcaravan · 11/10/2022 21:19

@Begoniasforever thank you. Excellently put. I really don't understand some people.

Yea I'm watching slowly, in an almost therapy like way.

I was 16, saving for uni, my now DH was on a summer baling contract. I went down and worked in the sort of motel, truckers lodge place they were staying in.

I remember the moment the news broke, we were about ten miles away, grown men in tears.

I have never forgotten how we searched and searched, all of us.

To this day I think of that time and what we saw.

My parents, in very rural Scotland, were sympathetic and upset but happy for me to stay and help. But also talk of it, both now with advanced dementia.

I have a Holly as a middle name to my second, Christmas born baby. My grandmother was Ivy. I still feel funny when I meet siblings Holly and Jessica.

Anyway, will keep watching slowly, but feeling strange

That's YOUR JFK moment - you will always know where you were, who you were with, what you were doing until the day you die. It's very strong - not birth of your child, marriage etc. It's very physical/gutteral. I have 2. Please no more.

I hope you and your DH are doing OK.

Nolongera · 24/10/2022 09:39

It was typical channel 5 fare, low budget ( the reporters satellite link vans were clearly done on the cheap) and acting not great.

Mobile phones were everywhere in 2002 yet they still had reporters using phone boxes. Strange to think how mobile phones have been a big part of our lives for so long, I am glad I had a childhood without them.

I was sitting with a friend at the start of the case when Huntley came on TV for the first time and I said to him that Huntley had done it and there would be a ton of stuff from his past when he got caught.

Dunno why, I am no Miss Marple or in any way woo, but he stuck out like a sore thumb.

I think Maxine had lived a lie for so long she couldn't see the truth.

Anotherautumn · 24/10/2022 09:47

I am not sure about the past tense thing.

If (god forbid) a child at a previous school I had taught at went missing I would probably use past tense because I had known them - what was he like - he was a lovely boy.

I have finally watched it and I thought it was pretty good actually. The actor playing Huntley didn’t look like him but he really got the whiny self pity across brilliantly. I thought Carr was less well portrayed. I suppose the truth is none of us know. My impression was always that she genuinely believed Huntley was innocent.

As for Huntley himself, I always thought that he lured the girls in and then touched one of them, probably Holly, inappropriately. When the other girl, probably Jessica, started screaming, he got angry.

ElsieMc · 25/10/2022 16:17

I was going to avoid it because the title Maxine sounded somewhat sympathetic toward her. She was charged with two offences, cannot remember which way round it was, but she was found guilty of one and not guilty of the other. I thought the jury got it wrong. But this was a made for tv drama.

What stood out for me was when her own brief said she was likely to be found guilty of both charges because a witness saw her looking in the car boot and crying. She responded that people cried about lots of things or words to that effect. I took it to mean, rightly or wrongly, she saw what was in the boot. Maybe artistic licence, I do not know. Chilling stuff.

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