Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story (Netflix)

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Has anyone started watching this? I’ve just watched the first episode and found it utterly chilling. It’s been a long time since a TV show has impacted me so much; I felt myself physically recoiling. Excellent acting from both the chap playing Dahmer, and his victim, Tracey.

Maybe something about the lizard brain and mating with the strongest males for some women. In the way a lioness will mate with a lion after it's killed its rivals, and even one of her own male cubs if he sees it as a thread.

Fascinating. I'd love to see a documentary on this. It's so baffling and intriguing to me why.

I can understand women writing to men in prison in a general sense, as I can see an odd but understandable appeal to a man who cannot leave prison to psychologically damaged woman. He has nothing else going on and has time to give her attention and gush to her in letters, and she doesn't have to worry about having to interact with him in real life.

But I cannot get my head around the women who will write to and seek a relationship with men who torture and kill. Like the women who did their hair like Ted Bundy's victims to look like his 'type'.

Evan Peters is an incredible actor. Apparently a really nice bloke as well. Super talented and looks about 16! I don't think I've seen him in anything bad - or at least he's not been bad in anything I've seen him in.

🤣 oh yeah the Dahmer story is a real showcase of abnormal female behaviour.

Probably just not enough bored gay men at the time to write letters, I imagine Aileen Wuornos probably had her fair share of male and female admirers. America’s a big country, there’ll always be a few interested in the famous, no matter what they are famous for

Same here. I actually chose to scroll forward through some of the scenes as they were just too much, and that is highly unusual for me! I watch a fair few things about serial killers and can usually sit through anything.

I’m watching it and think it’s brilliant. I don’t understand those saying it’s scary or gory, of course it’s gory, it’s about a serial killer?!

@Garman, for me it was the scenes where he’s getting his kicks over the corpse laid out in front of him. It wasn’t scary or gory to me, more gratuitous really.

I almost watched this as I find human behaviour and motives interesting.

The older I get though the less stomach I have for true crime. In the past I've read details of the West's crimes, a Russian serial killer, and also a random single detail given in a newspaper report of a contemporary murder which have really stayed with me. Not the goriest or 'worst' of details, but just utterly corrupt, debased things you wouldn't even think to imagine.

The lighthearted tone of some true crime podcasts has really turned me off those too.

So interesting as I'm sure Dahmer is I'll be giving it a miss.

I can't get that sandwich scene out of my head

Totally. It was at the height of the aids epidemic so they were also fearful.

I finished this today. I found it interesting and thought it was done really well. I like true crime programmes and podcasts and they normally don't bother me but I think this will stay with me a while. It was unsettling and did scare me.
Evan Peters was excellent as Dahmer.

I think I'm overlooking the horror and scariness of it because it's trying to unpick the psychology of Daimler. The unhinged pill swilling mother, the father who enjoyed dissecting roadkill, the gay shame, school and all the influences. Maybe he was brain injured during the operation at 4?

Yes that is possible? He had a horrible childhood. It all fascinates me

Omg I have just clicked who Jeffery's new Step Mum is! That quite excited me.

I love Evan Peters - American Horror Story... Just love him.

Also, I can watch anything horror wise, but the first episode of this chilled me and frightened me more than anything. It must have been the directing because I've seen a lot of horror and true crime.

It made me lock my door! Like Dahmer is going to pop in and say hi?

Wigged out.

I find the nature/nurture debate fascinating. And I'm nearly always inclined to 'nurture' for sure. While there are people with difficult childhoods who didn't turn out like him, or people with trauma and abandonment issues who didn't turn out like him, or people who had medical procedures done who didn't turn out like him, or people who were bullied and outcasts that didn't turn out like him, it's never one thing at play in the making of a monster.

I also remember a documentary years ago, and I'm sure it was about Dahmer, where his father stated that he had to be isolated in hospital at some point, was allowed no human contact for a certain number of days, and he came home changed. I'm pretty sure it was him but could easily be another serial killer

I still double check my doors every night specially because of Richard Ramirez 🙈 aka the Night Stalker.

@NippyWoowoo, it could well have been. I’m sure the father said that at one point- that he was different after his hernia operation when he was little. He said it in this adaptation at least, so assume it’s based on him saying something similar in RL.

Yes, and I've Google it too. In my memory it was TB, and he was a baby, but again this was years ago, probably some time in the late 90s when I was a teen.

Google only mentions the op at 4

That woman ate the sandwich??
Aftereverything 😫

Really?????

When this weird man makes her food!! And she knows he knows it was her complaint!!

It's horrific. The whole thing.

What I find most chilling is how professional these serial killers get.

And how the police don't search for evidence.
They are so passive.

Evidence doesn't walk in the police station!

Maybe this was homophobic and racists policing or maybe it's just shit policing. I've had had a similar experience.

My daughter is never going out alone, utterly terrifying!

That poor woman! What she heard!!
fights ending with a drill?? And whirring and smell's?? ..

She didn’t eat the sandwich. Did she ?

I’m on episode 4 and really don’t understand why everyone is saying it’s scary and gory
Its shocking and disgusting in places yes (but surely you didn’t expect the story of a necrophiliac cannibal serial killer to be light and fluffy?) … but scary? No.

She definitely didn't in the show. According to my quick Google search, she didn't in reality either. But another neighbour called Pamela did accept a sandwich from him once, and after his arrest worried that it may have contained human flesh

This made me think of Diane Downs, who is in prison for murdering her daughter. Diane was very pretty and had a lot of men writing to her in prison. A serial killer called Randy Woodfield, also in prison, actually started writing to her and they ended up having some kind of 'relationship' for a while. You couldn't make it up really!

I know plenty of people who had a worse childhood.