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Countdown to Rings of Power

143 replies

QuebecBagnet · 01/09/2022 12:19

Anyone else excited.

oddly the daily Mail have totally changed their review of it overnight. Last night the article said it was a total turkey and would likely bankrupt Amazon studios. Poor acting, dire story lines, etc. couldn’t have been worse.

today it’s much more factual about what the show is about rather than really giving an opinion. I think Amazon have paid the DM off! 😂

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TottersBlankly · 14/10/2022 15:18

Oh my! Just started Ep 8 and already flummoxed! ShockShockShock

Threadkillacilla · 14/10/2022 18:46

Just finished ep 8.
Gotta say I enjoyed it though I'm no Tolkien purist.
Will deffo watch season two it feels like it has legs!

PhilistineWazzock · 14/10/2022 20:07

Bit of a double twist there!

JonSnowedUnder · 14/10/2022 20:29

I am actually surprised at how bad this series has been. Relying on surprise 'twists' that were obvious from the get go just shows they knew they needed cheap tricks to try and hide the crap writing and direction.

I can only hope the replace every single writer and director for the next series.

CaveMum · 14/10/2022 20:34

Season 2 started filming in London this week. Not sure what external locations they’ll be using but I’m guessing Wales and Scotland will feature!

hattymattie · 14/10/2022 21:03

Actually enjoyed this week - despite some obvious inconsistencies. Felt like it was starting to come together. Happy my guessing was correct. Agree need new writers and directors - and why is there an old elf (although he can act).

PolkaDotMankini · 14/10/2022 21:49

I actually enjoyed tonight's episode. I knew the start was wrong - MN is always right 😁Mainly though, I want the swishy burnt orange dress Elendil's daughter was wearing and the figure to pull it off.

escapingthecity · 14/10/2022 21:53

@hattymattie Celebrimbor? Played by Charles Edwards, who's in everything like Downton. I've seen him on stage twice and he's brilliant.

CallMeBettyBoop · 15/10/2022 00:35

I'm loving it.

Am disturbed at feeling attracted to Elrond....

hattymattie · 15/10/2022 16:08

I'm attracted to Sauron 😂

PolkaDotMankini · 15/10/2022 16:31

hattymattie · 15/10/2022 16:08

I'm attracted to Sauron 😂

He looked quite dishy as he entered Mordor. A bit too scruffy before that though!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/10/2022 16:43

CallMeBettyBoop · 15/10/2022 00:35

I'm loving it.

Am disturbed at feeling attracted to Elrond....

👀👀

Closedlips · 15/10/2022 18:57

I'm not sure I'm buying the humanising of Sauron... It feels like they've tried to do a redemption type back story, similar to Maleficent I suppose! It just feels totally unbelievable.

pollyhemlock · 15/10/2022 20:34

Tolkien nerd here. I thought it was pretty dire. The dwarves were irritating. The harfoots were exceptionally irritating. Some of the elves were Ok but Galadriel only seemed to have one facial expression. Also it was completely wrong to have the Gandalf / wizard character appear at this stage. The wizards don’t come to Middle Earth until the Third Age, and this series is set in the Second Age, at least a thousand years earlier.

MyHamsterIsSmarterThanMe · 15/10/2022 20:42

PolkaDotMankini · 15/10/2022 16:31

He looked quite dishy as he entered Mordor. A bit too scruffy before that though!

He seems to have become more attractive as sauron. 🤔

I actually liked this episode. If I had to rate them I'd say the best of the season Wass episode six and then episode eighth. I guess it was pretty clear from the beginning of the season that the stranger was not sauron and it had to be Halbrand but I thought they did the reveal still well and it wasn't acted terribly though I could have done without the finrod scenes. That guy just gives me the creeps for some reason. At least he didn't talk of looking up to find light and looming down to find darkness or some such nonsense. Or he actually did, didn't he??

I still don't understand why they forged the rings after realising that Halbrand was sauron. And why did sauron leave without the rings? What was the point of forging rings for the elves? And who is going to forge the ones for the dwarves and the nine for men? Maybe I do need to read the silmarillon finally...

MyHamsterIsSmarterThanMe · 15/10/2022 20:45

And his long can a goodbye last?? I was starting to get really worried that the stranger (Gandalf?) would get bored of waiting and just leave without nori.

CaveMum · 15/10/2022 21:55

Just caught up. I quite liked the last episode though I saw both twists coming a few minutes before each reveal - not a Tolkien nerd either!

Rhaenys · 15/10/2022 22:35

CaveMum · 15/10/2022 21:55

Just caught up. I quite liked the last episode though I saw both twists coming a few minutes before each reveal - not a Tolkien nerd either!

I’ve not had a chance to watch it yet and won’t until Monday but I’ve heard about the Sauron reveal. I’m not bothered by spoilers for this as I’m not bothered with the show in general, but it was pretty obvious that Hallbrand would end up being Sauron as there were only 3 possible suspects, and as he seemed the least obvious on the surface it was obviously going to be him. 😂

CaveMum · 15/10/2022 22:47

I did ponder for a moment that The Stranger might be Saruman, just because Saruman and Sauron kind of sound similar and something might have got lost in translation! Then I figured the affinity with the Hobbity ancestors was far more Gandalf-like 😁

I’m wondering if there’s something up with Galadriel, as @MyHamsterIsSmarterThanMe says, why did they push on with making the rings - unless Sauron got into her head and she’s actually doing it for him? Clutching at straws, I know!

LuciferRising · 16/10/2022 08:00

I'd have been Sauron's queen.

peaceandove · 16/10/2022 10:56

Closedlips · 15/10/2022 18:57

I'm not sure I'm buying the humanising of Sauron... It feels like they've tried to do a redemption type back story, similar to Maleficent I suppose! It just feels totally unbelievable.

Total Tolkien nerd here - Tolkien himself described Sauron as being repentant.

hattymattie · 16/10/2022 13:07

The Elven rings were made only by the elves so we're uncorrupted. The other rings were made using tips /magic from Sauron so he could control them with his one ring.

JonSnowedUnder · 16/10/2022 13:23

In this adaptation the elves also needed the rings containing mithril to stop them from dying so Galadriel couldn't have stopped them without condemning the elves - this might have been a good scene but I suppose there wasn't time given Nori needed 20mins of screen time to say goodbye to her tribe...who wouldn't have given her the time of day if she had fallen behind due to breaking a leg.

For me for a good human Sauron he needed to have been a better actor, Joseph Malwe for example was believable in his role. I actually liked the actor in the 'Halbrand' role but not as Sauron. I also can't get behind a Sauron with a Yorkshire accent...or whatever accent he was going for. I think the actor is Australian.

CaveMum · 16/10/2022 13:57

JonSnowedUnder · 16/10/2022 13:23

In this adaptation the elves also needed the rings containing mithril to stop them from dying so Galadriel couldn't have stopped them without condemning the elves - this might have been a good scene but I suppose there wasn't time given Nori needed 20mins of screen time to say goodbye to her tribe...who wouldn't have given her the time of day if she had fallen behind due to breaking a leg.

For me for a good human Sauron he needed to have been a better actor, Joseph Malwe for example was believable in his role. I actually liked the actor in the 'Halbrand' role but not as Sauron. I also can't get behind a Sauron with a Yorkshire accent...or whatever accent he was going for. I think the actor is Australian.

To paraphrase Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor - everywhere has got a North 😜

I did wonder if the accent was a nod to Sean Bean?

RedToothBrush · 16/10/2022 14:23

The first couple of episodes were a real slog. The dwarves are annoying but tbh i always found them irritating in the books. They aren't a particularly faithful interpretation though.

The hobbit are ok. Apart from Lenny who was super annoying. They have the innocent charm.

The elves do have that expressionless dead behind the eyes thing going on. Which is what the elves were - aloof and rather snooty.

Sauron being northern I don't have a problem with. Its the whole thing of being disarming and unthreatening. An accent which is 'lower class' almost is a good way to endeer yourself to many by seemingly being harmless. It plays to stereotypes of what someone with power should sound like and then turns them on their head. That's far more dangerous. It's part of the seduction. I note that in the moment with Galadriel, he lost this air. Its a clever trick.

Over all the pace of the series was too slow, and the series itself was too short. It ended the moment you felt it had got going and that was it. The tension and drama really only felt like it existed in the last episode.

I'm left frustrated and wanting more. I don't feel an end of series satisfaction. I feel a little like I've been led on and then dropped suddenly without explanation. It needed a shed load cutting out in earlier episodes and a couple more of high drama added at the end. And no not the endless battle screens from the LotRs movies. The series as it stood probably should have been 6 episodes or less. Cut the crap.

The scripts are my other bug. They are too stiff which deaden the characters. There is a lack of almost a sparkle and spontaneity with them. They aren't 'lifelike'. Few of the character endeer you to them. Gimili and Legolas worked as a pairing as there was a sense of humour between them for example. The elves whilst aloof have no real personality. They have pointy ears and aren't snooty but there a lack of any passion what so ever going on even with Galadriel.

I am hopeful that with characters now starting to build we will start to see that in the next series. This series is only a set up series. The problem with it being you have to sit through 7 hours before you start to feel like the whole thing is going anywhere.

There isn't a real sense of a distinct pressing threat. There's a vague 'war is coming and we don't have time' but it feels far off and not critical. The suspension of the hobbit and lotr is far superior.

I enjoyed it, in the end, but I can definitely see why others hated it and didn't make it past episode 1.

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