Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey

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Has anyone seen this? I'm watching episode three at the moment and it's just so shocking and disturbing. I've always found bizarre/extreme religions interesting but somehow had no real knowledge of FLDS. Each episode seems to get worse.

Yes I'm just finished episode 2. Absolutely vile, that creepy pensioner with 65 wives, vile. Poor women.

Just finished it. I knew some of the stuff about the FLDS and Warren Jeffs already though from watching 'escaping polygamy' on Amazon Prime, one of his daughters features on the Prime series.

A sad story of complete control, abuse and isolation from the outside world. "Marrying off" children to an 85-year-old paedophile who claims to be an immortal Prophet... it's unthinkable.

I don't think it's possible to escape the impact of this stuff, I think it would haunt you forever. It reminded me of the "Colonia Dignidad" cult in Chile, equally vile.

I've watched it. I find it horrifying how a nation that claims to lead the world has allowed this.

Apparently these girls are more mature than girls outside the FLDS so it's totally ok to marry them off at 14. Right...

We watched them all this afternoon. I almost didn't want to watch some of it, it was so disturbing. I'm amazed the authorities didn't step in sooner than they did - everyone knew what was going on.

I finished watching this today. The final episode was horrific. The women aiding the child abuse. I realise they are very insular and lived their whole lives in this community but jesus, did they really think this was ok?

I realise they are very insular and lived their whole lives in this community but jesus, did they really think this was ok?
I was thinking that in the first episode. At no point in the planning and execution of taking multiple girls across state lines to marry them off as children did anyone involved think "hang on, isn't this a bad thing"?

what got me the most was the women letting their kids go off, basically to be groomed and married off.

in what world does your own flesh and blood come under religion?!

It was shocking.
Don't any of these women ever wonderwhy it's the men who have numerous wives and not them allowed plural husbands?

I was so disturbed by the interview with the guy saying about needing to have three wives, because that's the way to paradise/ruling the universe/everlasting happiness etc. The interviewer asked what happened to the women (in the afterlife) - no one knew, they'd never even considered it. Women just not thought of as people in their own right.

And that was before all the child sex abuse horrors.

I'm not sure if it's available in the UK but there's a good programme I've just watched called Under The Banner of Heaven. It's a dramatisation of a true story about murder committed by FLDS members. It's has Andrew Garfield in it and is made by Tom Daley's husband (who was a Mormon before he came out). It's a bit slow in places but it was really good.
I'm fascinated by the Mormons - especially how much they are involved in Younique etc.
I've just finished watching episode 2 of Keep Sweet and it's harrowing. It's just an excuse for creepy old pervs to justify what they are doing. Truly awful.

It's not just the FLDS though. Specifics aside, most religions seem to involve old men controlling women, and in some cases, breaking the law while doing so and getting away with it.

The women were just as complicit as the men IMO.

Just finishing E4 - mind-boggling stuff.

The woman who denied on TV it was happening but had assisted in the delivery of an ander-age girl's birth 😩

I can't get my head around it

The amount of people still in the cult (still led by Warren) is unbelievable. Especially Elissa’s mother. How can you see you daughter go through a court case convicting your leader as an accessory to her rape as a child and still stick around?

Reminds me of a podcast I listened to a few years ago about the Tony Alamo Ministries (similar situation where leader was abusing his position to take child brides) and one of the main girl who secured his conviction’s parents are still in the cult now and continually discredit their daughter as a horrible, lying sneak.

Yes! And so mature many of them had no idea what sex was when they were married off.

Glad to have found a thread on this, we have watched the first two episodes so far and will watch another tonight and then tomorrow (limiting it to one at a time as it's so grim!).

It's sickening how long it was allowed to be swept under the radar.

Presumably the women are poorly educated and have been reared within this system. Groomed from birth. It's not easy to be a free thinker when you've never been allowed your own thoughts.

On God I put this on my watchlist, not sure I want to watch it now, sounds awful. Did Louis Theroux do a documentary with them?

I finished it. It definitely gets harder to watch, but it seems Warren Jeffs was his own undoing. I feel sorry for those poor girls. Many of the mums were just children when they married, so you can't really blame them for not doing more. They were obviously terrified of leaving that world.

The amount of people still in the cult (still led by Warren) is unbelievable. Especially Elissa’s mother. How can you see you daughter go through a court case convicting your leader as an accessory to her rape as a child and still stick around?

And why is he allowed to still lead the cult from prison? And how does he do that?

Just finished watching this, absolutely awful how it spiralled into even more disgusting levels once Warren took over, although his father having 65 wives and marrying teens was awful. The hypocrisy of the situation when Warren and his wives (not sure how many of them he took) went on the run and visited Disney, the Mardi Gras and I am sure they said strip clubs while his followers had to fund them with weekly tithes…actually it doesn’t surprise me.

Those poor girls and the mothers who had their children snatched to go to ‘Zion’.

$300,000 a week being sent to him while he was on the run! 😯

The last episode was heartbreaking with the happy family first having the husband forced to leave and then the mum having her young kids taken to "Zion" (which looked crap ) And the abuse of the 12 year old by Warren.
I recently watched a series about the Children of God cult, which once again involved young girls being abused. Seems like the main motivator for these cults being set up, to control and abuse young girls.