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Is anyone else watching the new Sense and Sensebility atm?

622 replies

08aGreatYearForCarmenere · 01/01/2008 22:05

It is good but quite odd as the casting is strangely similar to the film version, ie they all look and sound very alike.

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Swedes2Turnips1 · 10/01/2008 14:13

SueB - lol

Cappuccino · 10/01/2008 14:16

a "marketable author" in publisher-speak means attractive

my colleagues are always snorting about it

Cappuccino · 10/01/2008 14:17

mind you I have met more than a couple that look nothing like their photos

I will not name names however because I am a laydee

onebatmother · 10/01/2008 14:20

Sue

God Capp does it really? That is depressing.

If one is a pug, can one develop an entertaining quirk/controversial political view/dangerous air of lunacy that will do instead?

Am not pug, am marketable btw. To Bats only, obviously.

ruty · 10/01/2008 14:21

ROFL at trying to make JA marketable in the looks department. Slight touch of irony there.

onebatmother · 10/01/2008 14:21

like Julie Burchill always used to look a smirky and very very SLIM 22 on her Guardian byline, a while ago?

ruty · 10/01/2008 14:24

yes i think she was using a pic from the 70's till recently. Seriously.

Swedes2Turnips1 · 10/01/2008 14:25

Zadie Smith's novle White Teeth just dies about half way through - it is unreadable from that point on. ZS - what a minger.

Swedes2Turnips1 · 10/01/2008 14:28

Cap - Mind you with Photoshop v320, anything is possible. You can call me Claudia, or Schiff for short.

onebatmother · 10/01/2008 14:32

It would be really, really bad, really bad, of me to bitch about JB's appearance. But something's sucking me in..

I was weeeeping with laughter when she suddenly started appearing on TV about 8 or 9 years ago. The visual reality was so vastly different from the impression I'd got from that photo, and her leeeetle squeeak was so different from her muscular writing.

Poor Poor Julie.

ruty · 10/01/2008 14:50

Well JA's pet hate was vanity, let's face it.
Topic for the day:
'Was Jane Austen a misogynist? Discuss'

onebatmother · 10/01/2008 14:51

Iorek, you mentioned post-feminism
I think what they dun to poor Jane is a perfect example of why we were soo speaking to soon when trumpeting PF's arrival, don't you? Along with Bridget Bloody Jones.

Swedes · 10/01/2008 15:09

Returning to the night-cap and euphemism theme. Is it possible that night-cap was an 18th Century euphemism for 15 pints and three Armagnacs?

Cappuccino · 10/01/2008 15:50

okay here I am with the first nugget of wisdom from my Nerd Notebook

to me it seems like a lot of the character is being lost for no good reason at all

eg Mrs Dashwood seems to be a very sensible sort and she isn't - she jumps to conclusions and makes rash judgements on people and is more similar to Marianne than to Elinor, which is important as the book progresses

for example when Mrs John Dashwood is telling her that Edward should marry someone rich/ influential, she doesn't say "Thank you Fanny" like a polite person, she says something really rude and strops off, and decides to begone from Norland immediately. I don't get why they felt that needed to be changed, unless they just couldn't think of anything rude so thought 'thank you' would have to do

and Marianne's opinion of Col Brandon isn't based on him being too old at 35 to be interested in her - which let's face it we might think ourselves (and don't get me started on how David Morrissey is actually 43 which is too old for the part) but she thinks even a woman of 27 is too old to be in love and if such a woman did get married it would be because she needed security, and such a marriage would only be of 'convenience' because they were both so past it to feel any passion at all

I don't get why they are making such fun characters, in all their dizziness and nonsense, seem more sensible. That seems against good drama to me

oh and Edward is not handsome. He is shy and his manners become pleasing as you get to know him

he does not sweep in on a horse looking all blue-eyed and beautiful and saying wonderfully witty things and being generally gorgeous

onebatmother · 10/01/2008 17:34

what capp said.

I think I am going to be off board tonight (though I believe I might have said that before) but I will be pondering these notes and wondering what is achieved by these changes.

Think that Marianne's attitude change is strange, because it's a really crucial to the play between her and Elinor isn't it?

ruty · 10/01/2008 17:38

Marianne is terribly bland in the AD version. And Janet McTeer is such a good actress she could have easily done a good 'older Marianne without lessons learnt' without doing it OTT. But Andrew Davies adapting Jane Austen is like publishers buffing up her portrait. They have a very patronizing idea of the general public.

onebatmother · 10/01/2008 17:39

ALL my posts should be prefaced by AFAICR (what is the bloomin thing for as far as I can remember?) btw.
I often talk out of my arse. Edmund/Edward, whatever. etc.

edam · 10/01/2008 17:40

going back a few posts, ds has a Cinderella picture book that ends with the prince and Cinders agreeing to share all the chores for ever after. (It's not painfully PC at all, written in very funny doggerel.)

slayerette · 10/01/2008 17:49

No-one's mentioned The Grand Sophy. Which I re-read at least once a year and absolutely never grow tired of. And my favourite Heyer hero is Worth from Regency Buck.

Cappuccino · 10/01/2008 17:50

yes bat; though Elinor is more sensible it is not as obvious that Marianne is so damn young and dippy

but the character of her mother, in the book, existed to show that you could live a lifetime and not grow out of that

RustyBear · 10/01/2008 19:19

Hey - this thread is famous!
Quote of the week in MN news:

"Pannini sounds like a pet name a family might have for a vagina. So a crostini might be a post-menopausal pannini?"

(Swedes2Turnips1)

policywonk · 10/01/2008 19:22

Oooh I nominated that.

ruty · 10/01/2008 19:24

That was quite funny. And MP is obsessed with euphemisms for the vagina. Especially old vaginas.

onebatmother · 10/01/2008 19:26

Swedes! Huzzah! (with apologies to PW)

edam · 10/01/2008 20:00

I love The Grand Sophy. She's very funny. Love the side references - some poor unfortunate family in Brussels she took under her wing.

My favourite hero has to be Lord Alverstoke - for taking on such a crazy family, esp. Felix. Or that one from the Reluctant Widow.