I predict another controversy after tomorrow nights 'What they didn't tell you about MMR"

[JoolsToo]

get your boxing gloves out

I'll avoid that one like the plague!

Will probably watch the programme though - DS is nearly a year and so I suppose I should start thinking properly about it (not sure if the programme should be my only research though...)

I've a feeling it will be very one sided.

If you want to do research wouldn't your GP point you in the right direction? My GP said he had a file full of stuff I wanted to look at it but my mind was made up so it didn't matter.

That's a good idea - am going to see GP tomorrow anyway so might mention it then. Think I've seen what you feel about it anyway on another thread...I think I probably feel the same way as well to be honest.

Would the GP have any info which wouldn't be pro vaccination though ?

Hmmm, don't know Velcrobott - suppose it might depend on what your GP thinks! Suppose they might be biased too but I never looked at the file so don't know.

Think I'll avoid that one too - and anyway ds has had it so it's all too late now anyway...

Thought the trailer with its enormous scarey close-up of a needle and a screaming child was very balanced and unbiased though...not.

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from my point of view the argument isn't whether to vaccinate or not - I think its important that babies are vaccinated - its the fact that you should be able to get single vaccines easily if you so desire!

If like any other forums it's going to degenerate into mudslinging.

agree with JoolsToo. i don't think anyone disagrees that there is little risk with the MMR to the vast majority of children; however there seems to be little government effort in attempting to identify the children who are at greater risk with the MMR, or in supporting children damaged by the MMR (or other vaccinations), so that alternatives can be offered if appropriate

exactly MTS

the money and effort they spend on trying to convince us of its safety could have better been spent funding and managing an individualised immunisation programme

media scare stories about measles outbreaks this winter don't help matters either - my poor old mum is now scared about S (8 months) getting measles before he reaches the age for the MMR (well or single jabs but that's another argument!)

Ah but Twiglett, this government doesn't believe in individualism One size fits all should be their motto...

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A shot in the dark eh?

But the £5 million they spend on advertising campaign convincing the population that your baby will get eaten by a lion if you don't MMR could have funded an individ.....

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EXACTLY!!!!!

(not to mention all the money wasted on that fooking Dome!!! Grrrrr)

To be fair, it's not just cost, it's about efficiency ? the more jabs that have to be given the greater the chance that the child won't get all their jabs. And obviously more distress for the child. I'm not particularly pro MMR but cost isn't the main issue here.

edam - I hear what you're saying but I don't think that the argument that parents won't bother with follow up jabs doesn't hold much water (I await a bombardment of statistics!).

If you are concerned enough to take your child for one jab why would you suddenly not bother with the others? And if parents are concerned enough about the dangers of MMR (real or otherwise) I think its scandalous to try and coerce them into doing something they're not happy with.

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with the greatest respect Edam (cos you know I loves ya) I think that's patronising spin

I took DD to 6 appointments for her primaries (6) because I researched it and wanted to do the best for my child

I know I'm fortunate in terms of intelligence / education .. but I will not believe that any caring parent would not make it a priority to do the best for their kids .. to the best of their knowledge / ability. If they could only expect that the NHS offered the best for their individual child

twig, i think she has a point..i've given dd2 her infant jabs singly (infanrix) and still haven't taken her for her last lot (at 18 mths) because more jabs/appts has meant (even though i want to do the best for her) that i've left them v late, which i didn't do with dd1

Well, I have just finished watching this and it reinforced my belief that Wakefield's claims about MMR causing autism were misleading and dishonest. This programme showed him to a duplicitous, avaricous charlatan who does not have the backbone to answer his critic's allegations.

My brother is autistic and I find it offensive that Wakefield promotes, along with his current cohorts, placebos of all kinds to parents who are desperate to find "a cure" for this condition in order that they can make a fast buck. He is getting rich on others misfortune and I cannot understand why people won't see him for what he is. AN HONORARY QUACK!!!!