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Strictly '21 #4: First two show weekend, and first boot!

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PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 02/10/2021 18:38

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JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 03/10/2021 15:19

Yes clauditorium is deffo pee/kettle on time.

Gooseysgirl · 03/10/2021 16:57

Just reading back thru recent comments about Sara's dress. I'm actually still really annoyed about it. I honestly thought it completely over-emphasised her tummy? She has a great figure! C'mon Strictly wardrobe - you can do waaaay better than this!!!!

StormyCornishSeas · 03/10/2021 16:57

Like the phrase Clauditorium Grin

TitsInAbsentia · 03/10/2021 17:09

@Gooseysgirl

Just reading back thru recent comments about Sara's dress. I'm actually still really annoyed about it. I honestly thought it completely over-emphasised her tummy? She has a great figure! C'mon Strictly wardrobe - you can do waaaay better than this!!!!
It was a pretty epic week in terms of wardrobe howlers...I mean Dan and his Tess style one sleeve plus gladiator skirt over trousers...eeek! Has Vicky Giggles' budget been slashed that much that she had to go to Peacocks for Katie's outfit?
Bluffinwithmymuffin · 03/10/2021 17:09

MareofBeasttown

Anyone else think the wardrobe was particularly bad last night?

... haven’t rtft so apologies if someone’s already pointed this out, but poor Tilly reminded me of Bette Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? in that terrible outfit with the curly blonde wig; I kept expecting her to start singing “I’ve written a letter to Daddeeee!”

Bluffinwithmymuffin · 03/10/2021 17:17

Today 14:30 EineReiseDurchDieZeit

Also, I know we all hate the Daily Mail, but Sophie Ellis Bextor is in there today saying about the damage Strictly did her marriage even though there was no affair.

... That’s a shame. Sophie and Brendan were one of my favourite ever couples on Strictly and I remember her husband saying at the time how much in love he was with her, watching her dance Confused

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 03/10/2021 17:20

@StormyCornishSeas

Like the phrase Clauditorium Grin
I can't really claim credit, I've heard it used on the show Smile
EvilRingahBitch · 03/10/2021 17:27

@EineReiseDurchDieZeit

Also, I know we all hate the Daily Mail, but Sophie Ellis Bextor is in there today saying about the damage Strictly did her marriage even though there was no affair.

Husband found it unsettling, she lost focus, etc etc and they ended up in marriage counselling.

Very similar to what Louise Redknapp has said that its this big experience that throws you out of your norm and so you start to feel your norm is no longer enough 🤔

I haven't read the article but I suspect that the message that the Mail wants us to take from this is "Women Beware! Taking on new challenges which take you outside your comfort zone may lead to you reevaluating your life!"
TitsInAbsentia · 03/10/2021 17:35

@EvilRingahBitch also known as "stay in your box and don't take your apron off"!!

SequinsandStiIettos · 03/10/2021 17:37

It wasn't from them - it's her words. It's a good read and very insightful as to how it impacts on your life - mixture of scrutiny, forced intimacy, the whole Strictly family bubble/obsession and you losing your own identity for a while/getting caught up in things. It's from her forthcoming book. The clickbait title is what they are using to flog the paper but Sophie was very complimentary about Brendan, less so about lack of counselling/pastoral care from production.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 03/10/2021 17:41

@EvilRingahBitch

Yes, agree strong element of :

Women! Don't unsettle your husband by enjoying yourself too much, and focusing on achieving something, this will only make him feel inferior AND THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE WIFELY BEHAVIOUR

Plunger · 03/10/2021 17:43

Awful dresses. Look like mummies with bandages round their abdomen. The men not much better apart from john and Johannes.

SequinsandStiIettos · 03/10/2021 17:43

Although I’d been asked lots of times, I’d always said no to being a contestant on Strictly. But my friends were desperate for me to do it when the question rolled round again in 2013.

With the kids in bed, I talked it through one evening with my husband Richard and decided that, yes, we could handle it. It had to be a joint decision.

I’ve thought back to that night many times and I’m so glad we decided together. Because my whole experience of the show often makes me think of that Dickens quote: ‘It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.’

Some of the show was pure joy and exhilaration. But some of it was seriously intense and, even for a strong marriage like we have, it gave our foundations a good old shake.

In the launch show where we met our Strictly partners, I looked absolutely terrified. It wasn’t that I was terrified to be paired with Brendan Cole – I liked Brendan.

We’d got on when we’d met to learn the group dance for the launch and I secretly wanted to be paired with him as he was the only professional to be married and a dad, so I knew this would give us things to talk about other than footwork.

It was more that I found the whole thing of being paired a bit mortifying. I felt uncomfortable that there was a slight weirdness in forming a new ‘couple’ when you’re both two married strangers.

In the show, I found that kind of thing just didn’t sit too easily with me – even though Brendan was a complete gentleman throughout.

Why do they fetishise the ‘couples’ aspect so much? Dance partners, yes, but a couple has a different nod.

I had found this really innocent when I’d read it in the newspapers, but when it was me, with another man, and Richard watching on, I didn’t find it quite so innocent.

As soon as we were paired and the show stopped recording, Brendan went straight over to find Richard in the crowd to shake his hand. Brendan had done the show since the first one so he knew inside out how weird it was for the family outside of the programme.

He had good advice for me. ‘If you want this to work well, involve your friends, involve your husband.’ I think it did make a difference.

Some of the show was incredible. I loved that first waltz. I have to say, of all the things I’ve done in my professional life, my grandparents loved Strictly the most.

I have to confess as well that from that beginning dance, for all my awkwardness about having to cling on to another man for the dances, I was hooked and addicted to the show and the ride.

I never actually cared about winning. But from the start I knew that if I was only going to do the show once, then I wanted to have a go at all the dances. Making it to the final just before Christmas meant I got them all.

So it feels a bit of an awkward juxtaposition to have had this exquisite experience on one hand – learning all these gorgeous routines and being put in fabulous sparkly frocks with amazing hair and make-up – to then have a downside. But there was.

Richard started to struggle with my involvement from the launch show onwards.

It was so hard for him that I can remember wondering if they’d ever had a contestant walk away from the show before they’d even danced their first dance.

The physical closeness was something I struggled with throughout, but, by the end, a lot of things I had thought were odd – like the ‘couples’ holding hands or gripping on to each other for the results show – I was used to and it seemed as if, by doing those things, I had crossed another Strictly hurdle.

In a lot of ways the show was good for me. I became a better performer on stage. I loved pushing myself and trying new things and seeing what I was capable of.

It also changed my relationship with my body. I realised I was stronger than I knew and my body lapped up the exercise. For a brief moment I had what I call a ‘dancer’ bod, and though I knew it was on loan, I loved it while it lasted.

But at home my head was distracted. I’d get in exhausted, and while listening to what had been going on with the kids, I could feel my thoughts getting foggy as I went over and over some step I was finding hard.

I still feel bad that I was so absent. Especially at Christmas time as the final approached. The number of people still in the show dwindled and the intensity ramped up.

I could see some of the other contestants’ marriages and relationships were under strain. There were three marriage break-ups in my year and two Strictly babies have been born from fellow contestants and their dance partners.

That is not meant to trivialise any of those incidents. I have no idea what was going on in the marriages that broke down, and hey, working together is sometimes how you meet people.

But the concentric circles of these real-life situations, changes and developments definitely started to change the atmosphere of the programme. I can’t think of any word other than ‘intense’.

By the final week, I was done. I can remember standing beside the dance floor with Abbey Clancy and we were both saying how ready we were to go back to our husbands and our normal lives.

All the while, Richard was feeling left out in the cold. He was worried he was losing me. Not that I was going to run off with anyone – he liked Brendan and knew that nothing was going to happen there – but I think he thought that something was awakening in me and he felt he wasn’t part of my future.

I never, ever felt like that, but I couldn’t convince him. He could see that I was completely wrapped up in the show and consumed with the intensity of it and the constant learning, learning, learning which you share with one other person – your dance partner.

Richard became unusually insistent on knowing where I was all the time. If I didn’t reply to a text, he’d spiral.

Supporting me in all that I do usually came so easily to him, but with Strictly I think he was just waiting for it to end. He’d message me all day when I was rehearsing, extra keen to know my schedule.

We would argue when I was home about how distracted I was and about whether I’d get through to the next week. He just felt as if I might slip into a new life that left our family behind.

I had no such desire, but was too spent at the end of the day to give the reassurance he needed. I think the only real reassurance could come with the show finishing.

I feel terrible that I did that to him and at Strictly Towers there was no one to help. There’s no emotional care at all – aside from the wisdom and make-up-chair counsel of the folk working backstage.

For the dancers, too, they have to be choreographer, dancer and occasional psychiatrist. It starts off with you just being keen to show you can do the right heel or toe footwork for the chief judge, then your confidence in your ability to act or be sexy gets tested, and that is more emotionally challenging.

I do think they should have a counsellor, just to check in with the contestants. Richard began seeing a counsellor after I’d been in the show a month or so, and it really helped. Perhaps I should have, too.

If all this seems a little dramatic just for a show that teaches you to jive, I couldn’t agree more. It’s too much.

For all the glitter and sequins and stagecraft it taught me, I had to pay quite a heavy price, and Richard, too. Luckily what Brendan said was true: if you start off happily married, you’ll leave that way too. But it wasn’t immediate.

The final was three days before Christmas. On the camera rehearsal day, each finalist (I had a brilliant finalist family – all women, all supportive backstage) was taken to a little studio for an interview.

We were asked questions such as: ‘Is this the best thing you’ve ever done?’ ‘How incredible has your dance partner been?’ ‘What will you do to fill the hole after Strictly?’

And I had the epiphany that, oh my God – it’s like a cult! Trigger words and the constant repetition of how much it must mean to you. I looked to my left and right and all the finalists were being talked to as if we were in barrels about to go over a waterfall.

One of the cameramen even said to me on the day of the final: ‘You’re going to love this. Best day of your life. Better than your wedding day!’

And I thought: ‘No it is not. This isn’t the best thing ever. It’s been great, but this isn’t better than my wedding day.’

Final conclusions on the Church of Strictly?

I’m glad I did it and dancing the Charleston is one of my favourite things I’ve ever done, and thank you to Brendan for making the whole show lots of fun.

We never argued and I’m proud of that, but I’m prouder still I didn’t cry or anything.

I kept part of myself back and no matter what I was asked to do, I never did more than I meant. It took more strength than you’ll know but hey, it’s just a nice thing I did once.

After the show finished, I felt done in. Rinsed.

That Christmas I felt removed from everything. Part of me was terrified – what if my feelings didn’t return? – but more of me felt calm. I told myself to just go with the flow.

And slowly, I did return to myself. Richard and I took care of each other. We went away, just the two of us. A lot of it wasn’t spoken about. We didn’t really talk about how hard it had been for a long time – not properly. It was too tender. We never doubted our love for each other but I think Richard worried that I just wouldn’t want our life again.

But of course I did. To me, my family is everything.

© Sophie Ellis-Bextor, 2021

Abridged extract from Spinning Plates, by Sophie Ellis-Bextor.
Also in same article...

Earlier this year I started recording a podcast. I called it Spinning Plates because I felt it was an appropriate analogy for this time in my life. Arguably, I’ve never been busier.

I still have the day job – songwriting, singing, performing – and the other jobs that come with that: endorsements, photoshoots, promotional stuff like telly and radio.

But there’s another massive element of my life: raising my five sons. My children, as I write, range from two to 17 and the teenage bit is where the parenting really ramps up.

The podcast was initially going to be speaking to other working mums about how they balance it all.

But as time went on, I realised it was about how we, as women, as mothers, kept our sense of self.

How do you not lose yourself when you are at the mercy of your new baby? Are you the same person you were before you became a parent? Do you pick up where you left off with work, yourself, your priorities, or do they shift? I just don’t know.

One thing I do know is that I’m still learning.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 03/10/2021 17:44

Like, I see what you are saying @SequinsandStiIettos but neither Sophie or Brendan put a foot wrong and she was left handling his fragile masculinity and the dent in his ego

SchadenfreudePersonified · 03/10/2021 17:45

@RainbowWilf996

I love this song!

My ladies from Singing Hands sang this song too!

Singing Hands

This is LOVELY!

Thank you!

MareofBeasttown · 03/10/2021 18:00

Sophie Ellis-Bextor's husband sounds ridiculously insecure. She was fabulous on the show and he was clearly jealous. Pah.

SequinsandStiIettos · 03/10/2021 18:01

The husband comes across as insecure, aye. I can see it from both sides, platespinning vs feeling excluded. My response was to the idea that Fail is behind the message there - when they just want Strictly content to attract the likes of me. Don't get me wrong, I am aware of the Mail being what it is, but the article copied and pasted above is SEB's own experience of things. Nor do I think she is saying Be a tradwife (blergh!) or promoting surrendered wife bollocks. She is saying you sometimes lose yourself (I certainly did after kids) and you need to decide your own priorities/values/life balance.
Releasing a book around Glitterball time = immediate publicity.
The Mail is undoubtedlymisanthropic/misogynist/sidebar of shame etc and I am a bad feminist cos I read sleb twaddle online. That said, iirc from the feminism board, it was one of the few papers that appeared to be concerned with protecting (or at least putting the onus on) sex-based rights, oh the irony.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 03/10/2021 18:04

Re Gordn Ramsey - I loathed him with a passion until I saw a programme where he was working with children, and he was amazing with them - very patient, supportive, encouraging, and just brilliant.

JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 03/10/2021 18:05

@Gooseysgirl

Just reading back thru recent comments about Sara's dress. I'm actually still really annoyed about it. I honestly thought it completely over-emphasised her tummy? She has a great figure! C'mon Strictly wardrobe - you can do waaaay better than this!!!!
It definitely did. I don't know what the stylist was thinking but it certainly wasn't anything kind. Poor Sara They keep dressing her as if she's 50+
iklboo · 03/10/2021 18:06

Did anyone see what they wanted Dan to wear under his costume, but he refused?

SequinsandStiIettos · 03/10/2021 18:06

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jones_(The_Feeling)

Husband has also had fame and a career. Maybe it was just a gruelling 3 months of dealing with the kids. I can relate to that too.

SequinsandStiIettos · 03/10/2021 18:07

I've liked all of Sara's dresses Blush I am 50 though
Link iklboo?

StormyCornishSeas · 03/10/2021 18:08

Well the trailer for tonight's results show, is already dispelling the myth it's live

SequinsandStiIettos · 03/10/2021 18:10

www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/tv/strictlys-dan-walker-snubs-muscle-21747473

Found it! Grin
Good for Dan. Fair play to the man. He looked fine. That would have just made him into the comedy turn yesterday.

StCharlotte · 03/10/2021 18:21

@StormyCornishSeas

Well the trailer for tonight's results show, is already dispelling the myth it's live
Does anyone believe for a minute that the results show is live?

I can't believe they still try and pretend.

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