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VIGIL - starts Sunday 29th Aug. BBC 1 - TV PACE. NO SPOILERS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 24/08/2021 17:32

The six-part drama from World Productions (Line Of Duty, The Pembrokeshire Murders, Save Me, Bodyguard) stars Suranne Jones, Rose Leslie, Shaun Evans, Martin Compston and Paterson Joseph.

When a crew member is found dead on board the Trident nuclear submarine HMS Vigil, police in Scotland are called in to investigate. The catch? The UK’s nuclear deterrent must remain unbroken, so the submarine stays on patrol and Detective Chief Inspector Amy Silva (Suranne Jones) must go aboard to begin an investigation. Although the death was written off as an accidental overdose, Amy suspects foul play. But when the crew close ranks in the face of Amy’s questioning, a new threat overshadows her inquiry.

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Vigil’s stellar ensemble cast also features Anjli Mohindra, Connor Swindells, Adam James, Gary Lewis, Stephen Dillane, Lolita Chakrabarti, Daniel Portman, Lorne MacFadyen and Lauren Lyle.

The fictional six-part series is written and created by Bafta nominated writer Tom Edge, with episodes by Ed Macdonald and Chandni Lakhani. It is directed by Bafta winner James Strong, and Bafta nominee Isabelle Sieb. Vigil is produced by Angie Daniell, executive produced by Simon Heath and Jake Lushington for World Productions, Gaynor Holmes for the BBC, James Strong and Tom Edge.

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Vigil is set and was filmed in Scotland, and is supported by the National Lottery through Screen Scotland. International distribution is handled by ITV Studios.

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JustDanceAddict · 13/09/2021 07:38

Agree with Botox being so obvious and ridiculous- first thing that came into my head when that officer appeared.
Hopefully they’ll be a big ‘reveal’ re flashbacks otherwise I don’t see the point.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 13/09/2021 07:57

At the start of the series they mentioned low o2 levels on board. Must be relevant.

Cook I thought had dropped the custard, but when the masked man appeared I thought maybe it’s was vomit. Possibly custard vomit.

No way they’d be talking freely on the mobile phone about Vigil. No way. Those lines aren’t safe.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 13/09/2021 07:58

The M15 Botox woman was so distracting I don’t know what she said, why use an actor with a face that doesn’t move.

KingsleyShacklebolt · 13/09/2021 08:06

Ok.... so cook's son was in prison in Indonesia for drugs. Or was it Moscow perhaps? Are we supposed to be set up to believe that she was the mole or the russian agent? Unlikely as a cook, who has no business to be anywhere near missiles or other parts of the submarine.

I think the Russian agent is the second in command, the fair haired bloke who was in Dr Foster with Suranne Jones. Based solely on the fact he had about two lines in it last night and the scriptwriters obviously hoped we'd forgotten about him. And Suranne told him he was the only person she could trust.

And why won't they just let her have her anti depressants?

KingsleyShacklebolt · 13/09/2021 08:08

And the masked person at the end - definitely a man, which rules out the doctor. Not overly tall, I thought it was either the coxswain or the guy who had the gun to his head and pointed out the padlocks.

auditamanda · 13/09/2021 08:12

As soon as they said she was on paroxetine I knew withdrawals would come into it somewhere. Paroxetine has an incredibly short 1/2 life and is very very rarely prescribed now compared to other SSRIs (antidepressants) such as citalopram where the longer half life means going cold turkey is much less evident. In fact I don't think it would ever be prescribed as first line 🤷

Bit of a plot hole really.

As per PP with noticing the military plot holes, that's me with the medical plots Grin

Booknooks · 13/09/2021 08:12

They probably don't have anti depressants on board, otherwise I imagine it wouldn't be an issue. I think the bloke at the end is the padlock one too, but he will turn out to be a good one.

KingsleyShacklebolt · 13/09/2021 08:18

But she had medication with her when she arrived, didn;t she? Or was it that she didn't have enough as wasn't expecting to stay so long? I would imagine the withdrawal is a plot line and the doctor's helpful suggestion to have an antihistamine isn't going to do much good.

auditamanda · 13/09/2021 08:19

She was only meant to be there for a few nights so my guess is she didn't take enough to last the extended stay. And no they wouldn't have spare on board.

Booknooks · 13/09/2021 08:23

She was probably just allowed to have enough to cover the days she thought she would be aboard, although I would guess it will turn out out be intentional to keep her on board longer knowing she will run out; if she finds anything out can be pointed to as due to the effects of withdrawal. I hope the flashbacks have some sort of relevance to the overall plot though they seem a bit tedious.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 13/09/2021 08:31

I think it's extremely unlikely you'd only take enough of your meds to last for three days in the first place, particularly if they need to be taken religiously on an ongoing basis. You'd surely take the box 'just in case'?

GrandmasNightgown · 13/09/2021 08:34

@DobbyTheHouseElk

The M15 Botox woman was so distracting I don’t know what she said, why use an actor with a face that doesn’t move.
Maybe she's just meant to be expressionless.

I think the plot has become clearer

The main thing is the Russians trying to reduce the West's nuclear capabilities by undermining public support for submarine borne weapons, and causing major disruption to the fleet.

They are doing this by trying to bring down a submarine.

Port Haven was initiated by them - much off the crew off board and drunk/high anyhow. Others spiked, including the guy who was transferred (drugged to sleep), everything left nicely cooking and the perpetrator off the boat. Nuclear disaster in a US naval port with Brits to blame, also blowing the transatlantic defence relationship out of the water (all evidence of Russian involvement destroyed when it went up)

Plot foiled because beardy heroin bloke returned sober.

Burke, the protesters et al see some of what has been wrong on the submarine, but don't know the bigger plot. Burke has been making records of everything that is wrong on the boat - many of which will be red herrings. Because there's probably always stuff like affairs going on. Others will be acting out of misplaced) sense of what is right (such as doctor with urine tests, or XO demonising Burke) and that muddies the waters.

The Russians are continuing the plot, because they have the assets in place to sabotage, even if not by a spectacular in a US base. They are however increasingly worried about people who are finding out bits of the preparations, and need to act occasionally to prevent discovery.

They have an asset amongst the protestors (bad on MI5 for not finding that) - probably someone Jade confided in (the politician could be in the frame for that - recruited by the Russians, telling them what he's heard from Jade without realising any of the significance, just hoping to get rid of the bases from Scotland). Burke collected the info for it to be used, OK it was found in his shore quarters, but Jade knew the password and so may have seen some/all of it.

The Russians wanted Burke out of the way, as something they were aware he had found out was getting too close.

But they might have needed to send a message to their on-board assassin to tell him/her to act, which they did opportunistically during disruption to routine following Burke's outburst. Message could be in pre-arranged language an innocuous family message, just as the detectives communicate. Precise timing of his death didn't matter, just as long as it happened.

The cook was vulnerable to exploitation because of her son, so may have been the poisoner. She may in turn have been poisoned, or may have chosen suicide, as the enormity of what she has done and a belief that the net is closing around her begins to dawn on her.

But even though submarine crew often multi-role, she is unlikely to have had the skill set to sabotage a submarine (given how highly qualified and trained the crew is). So is there another on-board asset Russian co-optee as well? And if so, are they committed to a suicide mission (seems possible, given the reactor fault)

KingsleyShacklebolt · 13/09/2021 08:34

Yes I am finding the flashbacks tedious too. The only one relevant was the car crash bit to explain her backstory. The dancing and the pub and the rest of it - meh.

Newgirls · 13/09/2021 08:39

Was it a gas attack? Hence the vomit and mask? How could it be gas though?

NowWeAreSuckingDieselFella · 13/09/2021 08:50

Re the man in the mask isn't the Coxswain the only one on board who wears a blue shirt?

copernicium · 13/09/2021 08:54

Did the cook do the murder in exchange for her son being released? And had to be killed as she's the only one who knows who the Russian is?

Lolly12 · 13/09/2021 08:55

@KingsleyShacklebolt

Ok.... so cook's son was in prison in Indonesia for drugs. Or was it Moscow perhaps? Are we supposed to be set up to believe that she was the mole or the russian agent? Unlikely as a cook, who has no business to be anywhere near missiles or other parts of the submarine.

I think the Russian agent is the second in command, the fair haired bloke who was in Dr Foster with Suranne Jones. Based solely on the fact he had about two lines in it last night and the scriptwriters obviously hoped we'd forgotten about him. And Suranne told him he was the only person she could trust.

And why won't they just let her have her anti depressants?

Yes I’m also in agreement that he’s a wrong un. Suranne told him about the note that the cook had received saying her son was coming out of prison early. Could that message have been code for him to do something, or that those on land are onto it all? Unlikely in reality someone on a ten year sentence would be released after a year, I think even someone said as such..
Lolly12 · 13/09/2021 09:00

@copernicium

Did the cook do the murder in exchange for her son being released? And had to be killed as she's the only one who knows who the Russian is?
Quite possibly! She’s no longer needed if she’s done her job. Although still not convinced she would be able to get away with much as would be obvious if she’d been in places her role wouldn’t normally have access to etc?
GrandmasNightgown · 13/09/2021 09:00

@NowWeAreSuckingDieselFella

Re the man in the mask isn't the Coxswain the only one on board who wears a blue shirt?
No, I've just looked back at the memorial service and there's at least one other in the lighter blue.

I think it might be connected to rank, not role. Also, in the gloomy light of the submarines, several colours look a bit 'off' and can appear lighter/darker than they are

DobbyTheHouseElk · 13/09/2021 09:08

I don’t think it’s a gas attack. More like dangerously low o2 levels. Back at the base they were discussing the levels when the were doing the zoom meeting with the government.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 13/09/2021 09:08

Oh and the cooks team know, the other cook male I think came to rescue Amy when she was knocked down.

GrandmasNightgown · 13/09/2021 09:12

Suranne told him about the note that the cook had received saying her son was coming out of prison early. Could that message have been code for him to do something, or that those on land are onto it all? Unlikely in reality someone on a ten year sentence would be released after a year, I think even someone said as such..

She first heard about the cook's son from the coxswain (nice near homonyms!) back in ep1

We assume it's true because he knew and the rest of the crew seemed to know too. But it could be a cover story, with the messages meaning something else. Or it could be that her reward for her cooperation (possibly not poisoner in chief, but perhaps the person who brought on board and kept nerve agent ingredients for them) was the Russians somehow getting her son out of Indonesian prison. Something they lived up to after Burke was dead. Which terrified her - because she hadnt quite realised what she was getting in to.

Messages to the baddies on board would have to be by prearranged code in family messages, because they aren't private - DCI Silva's are all brought to her on bits of paper by a comms officer

Perhaps the cook has no son, or she has only law-abiding DC who are not abroad. And that will be spotted and another step in the investigation? If so, did the coxswain know because he was in on the manipulation, or because he has no reason to doubt it?

KillingMeDeftly · 13/09/2021 09:25

So what role does the guy at the protest camp play in all of this? He gets billing in the opening credits and was the shell shocked valet in Downton so he's not a complete unknown. Surely he wasn't hired to just grimace a bit from a distance?

FuglyHouse · 13/09/2021 09:28

Does nobody else suspect Hadlow (the engineer who refused to answer questions early on)? He always looks nervous and has never been properly questioned, even though it was him who found the body. When he refused to answer in an earlier episode, he mentioned the chain of command - the XO looked very confused at that comment.

I'm not sure if he's the Russian spy or if he's MI5 and discovered Burke's body because he'd been keeping an eye on him (or even helping him collect information).

Could Burke have been working for the GRU unwittingly? If there's a Russian spy in the peace camp, it wouldn't be too hard to manipulate Jade and Burke into thinking they were doing the right thing to expose failings in the subs, when they were actually collecting info for the GRU.

And yes, hating the tedious flashbacks. A decent writer/director should be able to increase the tension without resorting to heartrending flashbacks.

viques · 13/09/2021 09:31

@Grandmasnightgown

Oh you are good. I had some of that rolling round in my head but you have put it into a narrative I can follow.

You might be wrong of course, but I am going with you at the moment in the absence of anything else.

And I had the weeping cook down as part of it from the moment I clocked eyes on her - twirls little moustaches , speaks in a Beligian accent........