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EASTENDERS 49 - NO SPOILERS OR YOU ARE NOT WELCOME

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Blondeshavemorefun · 08/05/2021 11:26

So we now have gray as a triple murderer 🙀🙀🙀

Surely soon he will be found out ......

I do feel for woman in Chantelle’s situation. EE handled ee death
And murder very wrongly 😢

So will Linda keep Max’s baby. Assume it is def his - why can’t they make happy storyline for this family

Bobbys dating - will they find out he killed his sister - and he looks so young so not sure how the lady he is dating thinks he owns his business

Will Ben and callum get married

Will Bailey be found safe / didn’t anyone think of looking in tubes /tunnels

What will happen with Issac not taking his tablets - do we care (sorry)

Can’t think of any more thriving storylines - sure I’ve missed something important

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pinkmagnolias · 26/05/2021 00:04

Agree Phil is looking tentatively at Kat all the time. Is he scheming? Something doesn't seem quite right.

Owlina · 26/05/2021 01:13

how on earth did you guys guess FGM.

There was a scene where Iqra was telling Mila she could move in with her, and she refused saying she absolutely couldn't. It was implied she didn't want to be sexual with her yet. She looked scared. That, as well as the fact that what we know about her family seems very... Strict? Conservative?

Owlina · 26/05/2021 01:23

It’s a woman with a child they’re laying it on thick with “she’s not a monster.” She fucking is. She’s a child abuser. Why are they doing this?

Because abusers in real life do have children, and those children often do find it difficult to conceptualise the parent that raised them and didn't abuse them etc. As a "monster". I don't think the shoe themselves are trying to say Katy isn't a monster, she clearly is as a sexual predator if children. More, they are trying to show the conflicted feelings their children go through. We've seen how Katy has tried to manipulate Frankie into giving the character statement in the first place with the whole "I was a good mum to you". I can't imagine finding out my mother had done such awful things. It's easy for some to disown, it's not so easy for others who have such good memories of that person and still love them. It's easy to show the family just cutting them off, but that's not always reality.

Owlina · 26/05/2021 01:23

Show not shoe Hmm

Justjoinedforthis · 26/05/2021 06:37

I can’t stop thinking about Louise for some reason. I reckon she may return with Keanau at some point. I actually love Phil and kat together.

the80sweregreat · 26/05/2021 06:41

Phil isn't a nice man at all really , but occasionally with Sharon he seemed happy and they were married for years. (By EE standards it was a long time anyway!!)

SoupDragon · 26/05/2021 08:28

@Owlina

how on earth did you guys guess FGM.

There was a scene where Iqra was telling Mila she could move in with her, and she refused saying she absolutely couldn't. It was implied she didn't want to be sexual with her yet. She looked scared. That, as well as the fact that what we know about her family seems very... Strict? Conservative?

Yes, this set the seed that something was up.Then she said to her mum that she had done enough for the family implying she'd gone along with something traditional. The final pieces was when her young sister said she was going away alone with her mother to see an aunt she didn't know. From what I've seen in dramas covering this, this is how the parents go about it. Obviously this may differ from reality but usually these things are generally based on truth.
SoupDragon · 26/05/2021 08:29

Did they say the sister was going to Toulouse to have it done?

I don't think so. I'm not sure where they said now but I just thought "south coast" at the time.

SoupDragon · 26/05/2021 08:30

@the80sweregreat

Phil isn't a nice man at all really , but occasionally with Sharon he seemed happy and they were married for years. (By EE standards it was a long time anyway!!)
He's never been jolly though!
pinkmagnolias · 26/05/2021 09:05

she refused saying she absolutely couldn't. It was implied she didn't want to be sexual with her yet. She looked scared
I’m reluctant to get an overload of info by doing a Google search but without being graphic, can a woman have sex after it?

Templetreebreeze · 26/05/2021 09:18

I think Phil knows that Kat is not to be messed with.
She will not take any shit from him and already pushed back with regards to the kids.
Hes met his match and he knows it, shes not reliant on him financially and will just walk away if he starts messing her about.

SoupDragon · 26/05/2021 09:21

@pinkmagnolias

she refused saying she absolutely couldn't. It was implied she didn't want to be sexual with her yet. She looked scared I’m reluctant to get an overload of info by doing a Google search but without being graphic, can a woman have sex after it?
Yes and no.... I think her husband "fixes" part of it so she can on their wedding night and thus can thereafter.

Non graphic explanation!

Owlina · 26/05/2021 10:02

I’m reluctant to get an overload of info by doing a Google search but without being graphic, can a woman have sex after it?

Yes but it can be very painful. Also, it will always look different, so I think she just didn't want Iqra to know what she'd been through.

pinkmagnolias · 26/05/2021 10:26

Thanks. I don’t really understand it. Does the husband remove the stitches. It’s a topic not understood by a lot of people and I don’t know why EE are doing it.

SoupDragon · 26/05/2021 10:42

It’s a topic not understood by a lot of people and I don’t know why EE are doing it.

That's exactly why they are doing it, surely?! It should be understood by lots of people.

I think there are probably differing versions depending on culture. I am not going to pretend I am at all well informed and only have what information I have gleaned from news/mumsnet/dramas.

UhtredRagnarson · 26/05/2021 10:52

Thanks. I don’t really understand it. Does the husband remove the stitches.

No. Sad he just has sex with her and in the process tears the tissue that has been stitched together and healed for a long time.

pinkmagnolias · 26/05/2021 10:53

Yes you are right Soupdragon. I just looked at the stats and 28 per 1000 women in London are affected (2015). That’s a huge number and I’m sure my ignorance is in the minority. It’s probably a well known subject elsewhere.

UhtredRagnarson · 26/05/2021 10:55

I was on the phone last night when Mila told Cathy her sister was being taken for FGM. Did mila go on to say what FGM stood for? I know she said “you would call it FGM” but I can’t remember if she explained what that meant. Are the writers hoping the viewers will google rather than them having to say the words?

SoupDragon · 26/05/2021 11:01

I don't think she did say what it stood for, no.

pinkmagnolias · 26/05/2021 11:09

UhtredRagnarson She said FGM. Only for having previously googled because it was mentioned on this thread, I would have missed it to be honest.
I’m reluctant to Google the procedure and I don’t really want graphic details of it on screen either.
From rape to domestic violence to child abuse to this. I took a break from EE recently and if this goes into detail, I will stop watching again. It’s meant to be an entertainment show!!!

UhtredRagnarson · 26/05/2021 11:15

I agree with you. We’ve had enough violence towards women on EE. Both performed and implied. We don’t need another female being abused storyline. I don’t think they should be doing it. Having said that, if they are going to do it they should at least do it properly and not chicken out of using the actual words. But it’s EE so I’ve stopped expecting anything responsible from them now.

SoupDragon · 26/05/2021 12:42

I think it is completely realistic - Mila didn't even want to say that much, she struggled with "cut". There is no way she would have said the words Female Genital Mutilation.

pinkmagnolias · 26/05/2021 15:32

I just read this. So sex is permanently painful until they give birth at least? Is that accurate?

‘FGM is seen as necessary to ensure marital fidelity and to prevent deviant sexual behavior.’

I don’t know Soupdragon. It’s a massive subject and many many people (like me) won’t understand or know anything about it. It’s too much for EE.

Optimist1 · 26/05/2021 15:49

From what I understand of FGM, the clitoris is likely to be removed/damaged so that sex isn't pleasurable for the woman and so she's is unlikely to be unfaithful. Grim.

UhtredRagnarson · 26/05/2021 15:53

There are different “levels” of FGM. Sometimes it’s “just” the removal of the clitoris. Sometimes it includes the vaginal lips being stitched together leaving just a tiny opening for peeing. It causes all sorts of problems with urinary infections, problems with periods and it’s a big risk for childbirth.

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