SCD '20 #12: Two dances per couple means two threads for Mumsnetters! The FINAL approaches...

[PolkadotsAndMoonbeams]

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Because his dancing has plateaued and not up to the standard of previous years. Viewers votes can't be relied upon as good judgement - John Sergeant is a good example.I believe (but before my time). There is a vast gap between HRVY and Maisie and everyone else. Usually the final is closer in ability.

Ah, you're taking the perspective that this is a "proper" dancing competition.

I’ve quite enjoyed the fact that there have been fewer brilliant dancers this time; it’s been refreshing not hearing the judges go on and on about how the standard is so high this year blah blah blah. The weakest finalist has won the glitter ball a few times too, so there’s still hope for Bill and Biscuits

@SoupDragon

I think you missed my point. I was talking about compared to previous finals, not compared to the other people this year of that makes sense.

But there have been years with real shock boots when very good people have gone home and years when one or more of the finalists were far from the best in their year. This year's crop can only be compared to the rest of this year's alumni in the same way that every years cast can only compete against their fellow contestants.

Ah, you're taking the perspective that this is a "proper" dancing competition.

No.

Long time lurker here, but does anyone else hate the smooshy stuff? I'd rather they just left all that out.
The odd video from home is fine, but the way they're always asking the celeb and the pro to go on about each other....
Maybe I'm just dead inside!?

DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes

This year's crop can only be compared to the rest of this year's alumni in the same way that every years cast can only compete against their fellow contestants.

Yes, I completely agree.

Daydreamsinglorioustechnicolor

Long time lurker here, but does anyone else hate the smooshy stuff? I'd rather they just left all that out.
The odd video from home is fine, but the way they're always asking the celeb and the pro to go on about each other....
Maybe I'm just dead inside!?

No, you’re not. I feel the same and a lot of people on this thread say similar very often

I don't think the pros appreciate being asked what they want to say to their partners either.

There's only so many ways. they can say the same things

Well, ITT did a good summary of the celebs' progress, but it did turn into a bit of a weep fest (with the notable exception of Bill). Even Oti, who's graced many a final! They're obviously all from very loving and supportive families.
I agree with pp above, it's a bit too saccharine for me.

Viewers votes can't be relied upon as good judgement
But that's what the programme is.
The viewers aren't being asked to judge the best dancer, or the one who has improved the most, or the one who has the best technique, they are asked to vote for their favourite.
Sometimes the favourite dancer is not the one with the best technique, they are the one who engages and entertains the voting public the most.

@Voice0fReason

Viewers votes can't be relied upon as good judgement But that's what the programme is. The viewers aren't being asked to judge the best dancer, or the one who has improved the most, or the one who has the best technique, they are asked to vote for their favourite. Sometimes the favourite dancer is not the one with the best technique, they are the one who engages and entertains the voting public the most.

You’re very aptly named, @Voice0fReason

If people want to vote for Bill, or John Sargeant, or Chris Hollins, or Christopher Parker, or anyone else who could conceivably be described as a less-than-perfect dancer, that’s absolutely grand.

It’s an entertainment show. Voting for the couple that most entertains you isn’t a failure to execute the ‘correct judgement’. Unless you’re labouring under the misapprehension that SCD is a competition centred exclusively on dancing ability (in which case you’d have to question why the casting encompasses such a wide variety of contenders, from retired politicians to dance-trained West End performers)

I had a wee peep at the weepathon. (And that was what it was maireas)

Biskwits has come across lovely in this (shame he allowed himself to be portrayed as a double standarded gonk on MIC as I took the ner at him initially)

I am a miserable old git. But. There is a joy to him. And I like his fighting spirit. And I also think Karen is one of the most beautiful creatures I’ve seen. Sorry if that sounds weird. She has such a beauty when she dances.

I like their partnership. Rolypolys and everything.

And you know I’m not one for vignettes and stories. But I cried. I don’t think anyone has ever said I’m proud of you and I can’t remember when someone last said they loved me. That broke my hard little bitter shell a bit watching his folks.

I will look forward to his dance if only for the joy and knowing his loved ones will be bursting with pride. I’m such a sap.

I love pginky. I can’t help how I feel about M. I just can’t warm to her dancing. I’m torn because she does dance well but I feel nowt. And if I did feel then she’d be a runaway winner. I just don’t buy what she selling.

I felt more with mrsg and Mia’s tiny little hello.

Loved Bill and Oti. But I think you already know that. Bill don’t get dry. His CC was mint and I also loved the goggleboxers watching him dance. It was unexpectedly fab and a right old joy. Me and mam Malone (from gogglebox) busted the same moves.

Oti weeping set me off. Bugger.

The vowel thief and jntt are good. No question and he comes across so well. But I don’t feel anything. I must be broken or something. His grandad’s little ‘good luck Harvey’ was the thing that finished me off. That and aljaz.

Sap city.

Enjoy it tomorrow.

Je suis well jel.

So I've just had a 'it's Strictly Final Day!!!' moment a la Princess Anna from Frozen... I'm ridiculously excited!!! DH thinks I'm nuts, however the DC are totally on board and we are planning the snacks 😄

Oooh Strickly snax great idea! What are you having?

I would love an honest interview or alternative

What would it mean to you win / get a high score ?

Bugger all really , I am here for a bit of a laugh and the money is double handy as well

Anton, How do you feel about getting a duffer every year ?

its brilliant I get to arse about and guaranteed to get out early so have plenty of time with my kids

I am sure there are plenty more

I would love Bill or Jamie to win who could then be asked if they enjoyed getting one over the ringhas !

Mossi, do you have anything constructive to add?

YOU WERE BRILLIANT I REALLY FELT THE EMOTION AND THE MOVING QUALITY WAS SO SO INTENSE AND IF I KEEP SHOUTING LIKE THIS IT WONT MATTER AND OF COURSE IM NOT BIASED IN FAVOUR OF MY OWN SISTER!!!

Morning, Friends of the Sequin! Lady B'Stard I can understand why you got emotional. The biggest privilege in life isn't the wealth (even of biscuit barons), it's the unconditional love and support - expressed - of your family. Not everyone has that. It's a credit to Bill that this comes not from parents or nans, but from a lovely wife and a friend who clearly has been supported well by Bill with her children.
I'm looking forward to seeing Katya and Nicola dance again, it's a shame that was cut short.

Biskwits has come across lovely in this (shame he allowed himself to be portrayed as a double standarded gonk on MIC as I took the ner at him initially)

If anyone's interested he has been interviewed on the podcast How to Fail with Elizabeth Day.
Talks about his childhood and the truth of his relationship with his dad.
As PP said, money alone doesn't make a privileged life.

I thought Bill’s little unsobbofest clip was quietly beautiful. And although he smacks to me of being a good egg, hearing his friend say what a support he’d been to her and rdw kids was just bloody lovely and confirmation that his good eggyness is there.

His non weepiness kind of cemented it. He knows he is a good egg, he knows that they are proud, he knows he is loved. He has no need for weepiness as it is nothing new to him.

That is a gift to march through life with I think.

It will be nice to see everyone again. I’m not sure Nicola would have made it to the final but I do hope that they come back and smash it. I did feel for them.

I’d clearly love Bill to romp it but I wouldn’t be unhappy if anyone else won. They all have their merits. As long as it doesn’t go uber gurny.

I’m wondering if everyone will get sleeves now it is finals day?

daydreams

I’ll give that a listen. He has certainly redeemed himself in my eyes. I’m still not sure why anyone would allow themselves to be portrayed as a bit of a git on a scripted reality show if it is miles from the truth but I suppose money might be a good enough reason.

Anyway. I’ve changed my opinion and think he has come across lovely on this. And watching everyone say what they did moved me. A lot.

I fear I may bawl like a bairn at that podcast.

We all have our crosses.

Morning All,

Also looking forward to the final tonight... the excitement, the suspense, the chance of a non-ringer victory, the all important snacks!!

Had a big back tooth out this week and still suffering so the snacks will need careful planning. In fact, I’m thinking they may all have to be liquid

@Bluffinwithmymuffin out of solidarity and sympathy I will join you in the liquid snacks so you are not alone.

DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes

@Bluffinwithmymuffin out of solidarity and sympathy I will join you in the liquid snacks so you are not alone.

Thank you, I appreciate the gesture. What shall we have? I’m in a bit of a Prosecco mood tbh.

Bluffin I have a gin advent calendar and I'm a few days behind so I was planning on working through that.

DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes

Bluffin I have a gin advent calendar and I'm a few days behind so I was planning on working through that.

You’re clearly a more discerning person than I am - as are most people, I find - so enjoy the gin; I’m going for a modest bottle of white and leaving a glass for tomorrow’s mushroom risotto. Bottoms up!