Honour - tonight and tomorrow on ITV1 at 9pm

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True story of the murder of Banaz Mahmod.

I hope it is done sensitively. Judging by the media coverage they think the story is about the police woman. And even if she is played by Keeley Hawes think that would be inappropriate.

I've found it done sensitively. Am in tears though as it is very traumatic and I would like to see what has changed in the way they deal with these cases .

Very good.

I thought it was good, and just read an article with Payzee Mahmood who was Banaz’s sister and she said the same, she was concerned it was about the police woman played by Keeley Hawes - but that actually after watching it, it was about the failings of the met police and how they failed her sister and that it shines a light of these communities

Well that was a tough watch.

I thought it was really well done, such a disturbing and horrific case. The fact the victim had been to the police 5 times but hadn't had any assistance was shocking.

Keeley Hawes was as usual brilliant. The whole team seemed to actually care what had happened, although I'm always disappointed when senior female professionals cry at work. Of course it is distressing but you would think they would have developed strategies to cope.

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I thought it was really well done, such a disturbing and horrific case. The fact the victim had been to the police 5 times but hadn't had any assistance was shocking.

Keeley Hawes was as usual brilliant. The whole team seemed to actually care what had happened, although I'm always disappointed when senior female professionals cry at work. Of course it is distressing but you would think they would have developed strategies to cope.

Senior professionals in the police, both male and female, cry at work. I am a retired social worker and worked alongside the police doing child protection work. We dealt with a number of child deaths and tears from both the police and social workers were not uncommon. Not when dealing with the families but in cars and offices many tears were shed. Those who didn't cry and held on to and hid their emotions often ended up off work, unable to cope with what they had encountered. I thought they presented the police very realistically.

Okay - I was disappointed because I had assumed it would be set in the community, not shown as a police procedural. And I think Keeley Hawes is usually brilliant. But the whole drab look they have given her isn't even reflective of the actual officer.

But think it is good to have this story told on main stream tv. And will watch the second episode.

In case anyone is interested the group bought in as "experts" on the community is IKWRO - Iranian and Kurdish Women's Rights Organisation. Their web site doesn't seem to be that up to date but they are active on facebook and twitter.

And Diana Nammi, who is shown describing the lives of women in this community in the cafe with the DCI, helped set this up. She was for some years a Kurdish Freedom Fighter inews.co.uk/news/peshmerga-forces-diana-nammi-interview-chance-to-live-mixed-gender-battalions-415279. But suspect all the women who work for the group must be brave to help women who are trying to escape the male culture they are being bought up in.

So hard to know the parents were involved

And her partner killed himself 10 years later 😰

So sad

I thought it was brilliantly done. Just so horrendous that the men in that family were boasting about murdering Banaz. Disgusting people. Unbelievable that Honour Based Violence exists in some factions of societies

Such a sad story, she was so brave to keep going to the police and asking for help
I thought it was amazing that the team actually chased the other men to Iraq and brought them back to justice.
It's terrible that Rahmat Sulemani killed himself

what a desperately sad story, my heart goes out to all the women and girls who have found themselves trapped in forced marriages. It’s the old story that women and girls are at the bottom of the pile as always.
The documentary after the last episode was very interesting. Banaz grave had been unmarked, the policewoman visited it , it was moving to see that her sister had put up a stone and it was being cared for.

So tragic and horrifying.

The way her relatives killed her was depraved and disgusting, then bunging her in a suitcase and hiding her body.

Then laughing and boasting about it afterwards.

There inhumanity and depravity is unbelievable.

I am sure none of them have any remorse for what they did, apart from being caught of course.

I wish they would all die in prison.

I found it very interesting. I did remember bits about the case but not that she complained to police 5 times. Bloody hell!

I remember being on a course with a Kurdish guy who went on about the Turks and how they treated the Kurds. It was on the tip of my tongue to snap back about honuor killings.

I thought it was very good. It was done sensitively.

I can’t stop thinking about it.

Killing a daughter/niece is unthinkable but to rape her as well. 😰

Was the video footage real?

The video footage was of an actress. In the documentary afterwards they showed the real video of Banaz and it was the same words.

Thanks

I did get caught up in the last episode, even when the said the Jury was back it felt like I didn't know what would happen.

I thought all of the parts were well acted and was really sad to read at the end that her boyfriend had committed suicide.

But also, and I didn't know this, inspiring that they didn't give up, and although it took two years managed to get the 2 other men sent back from Iraq and stood trial.

I hope her sister and her little girl are doing okay.

But cant help wondering what has happened to Banaz's mother. What she must have known and not told. What sort of life is that?

Here is an article from Banaz's sister.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-462342/Honour-killing-sister-breaks-silence.html

I tried to look up what had happened to her Mother. It seems that she probably got given a new identity because no one knows what happened to her.
I was wondering how she would cope because she didn't seem to speak any English and must have been totally relient on her husband for money.

Google said she warned Banaz about the plan to kill her but the police thought she should have done more.
I think it would be easy to think that and it's hard for me to understand how she didn't do more to save her but she must have been terrified and very vulnerable herself.

Hand in heart I feel that the mother was complicit. I understand she herself was probably a victim of abuse but to defend her husband when she likely knew only too well what had happened to her own daughter was unforgivable.

It’s so hard to try and understand the pressure of the cultural expectations but dear god. As the translator knew his family was safe in the UK. Pity her mother didn’t feel the same.

I've found this so shocking how a family her own parents could do this, it's really upsetting, Keeley Hawes is just brilliant