I give you clear warning, this place is goiing to go NUTS when Channel Four airs Bringing Up Baby on the 25th Sept... Claire Verity!!!

[Aitch]

seriously. i'm watching it now for work and it is terribly upsetting. Claire Verity says 'i'm a bitch, i'm mean to them but it works', no touching, no eye contact, lots of talking about 'baby', presumably because she can't be arsed remembering the name... oh it's AWFUL.

Also it's very sad (at the other end) that they are saying you can't formula feed AND do the continuum thing

You can still formula feed and be an attachment parent FFS!

OMG, i had 4weeks old, and i and dh cant believe those parents agreed to do so with cv woman.
i think she is very dangerious. i agree with hunker, she should not allowed on tv or etc..

Oh my dear lord! I haven't read the comments on here but HAD to come on and speak my utter disgust and dismay at Channel 4 and the ridiculous 1950's version of childrearing that they think is acceptable. I felt sorry for the poor parents duped into following such an outrageous routine with a new baby! To leave a newborn outside for 3 hours is child abuse - what if a dog or fox came by and attacked t he baby - it's not unheard of! Also a newborn has no other instincts than primal - it needs feeding, caring, winding, change of temperature etc - it doesn't know any emotions such as blackmail or emotional manipulation but just has needs that must be met. To treat a newborn with so much disdain was heart breaking. Made me feel sick to my stomach.

ok not dangerous to be left outside (as long as you respond to their cries..), but I hate her so much I just want to criticise everything she says

i mean i have i cant type roght after watching such a cruel thing

Oh CV would have hated me, two babies in one moses basket next to my bed for 3 months, then in a cot bed together for another few months and finally into their own room at about 8-9 months.

She has destroyed a very precious time for those mums. If someone had told me I could only have 10-minutes cuddles I would have slapped them.

How on earth can Channel 4 show that without mentioning FSIDS advice about having baby in your room for 6 months??? Expect Channel 4 will receive a multitude of complaints about the programme, but have added mine about lack of safety warning. Am fuming.......

to be outside, not be left outside

I don't anticipate getting my life back for 20 years or so - it was in the contract, wasn't it?

it's not right this crap should be broadcast - maybe we should all contact Ofcom...

My ds is 4 weeks old and i cant believe what i have just seen , them poor babies!

OK I have just seen it. CV is a scary woman even by my standards! I am all for routine but depriving a baby of attention from birth is awful. . I did do routine, but also played with my baby and cuddled her whenever she was awake. No point having DC if not. I also didn't completely ignore her when she cried if she woke after a couple of hours on day one . I would always go in to check her in the early days to make sure she was clean, not hungry, ill or just needed reassurance. I also wouldn't dream of parking her outside on her own and shutting the door . Likewise it would drive me nuts to have a baby constantly attached to me day and night. There is middle ground here.

I posted this the other day on another thread:

I read this when I had a tiny DS. I found it very powerful. It's from the Continuum Concept.

"He awakes in a mindless terror of the silence, the motionlessness. He screams. He is afire from head to foot with want, with desire, with intolerable impatience. He gasps for breath and screams until his head is filled with throbbing with the sound. He screams until his chest aches, until his throat is sore. He can bear the pain no more and his sobs weaken and subside. He listens. He opens and closes his fist. He rolls his head from side to side. Nothing helps. It is unbearable. He begins to cry again, but it is too much for his strained throat; he soon stops. He waves his hands and kicks his feet. He stops, able to suffer, unable to think, unable to hope. He listens. Then he falls asleep again."

I think C4 have a lot to answer to actually. Experimenting like this on vulnerable new mothers. I mean, if they had wanted routine, they could have got SWSNBN in couldn't they?

(lol at the fact that SWSNBN now seems like the voice of reason)

allbuggiedout- i am surprised they haven't mentioned anything about safe sleeping advice yet too(for any of them really, because the continuum style is co sleeping aswell isn't it?)

put your newborn outside and make sure you shut the door, you don't want to be lsitening to it wtf

I don't shut the door when my 4 year old is in the garden

Well I continuum-ed my ds and Spock / Continuumed my dd and loved most of it...the CV method is heartbreaking. How cuold you do that to a baby?

Good point about life back after 20 yrs, I just meant a little bit of life, like the odd night out, or time out in the day.
Don't see why you can't have a glass of wine while your baby sleeps in a basket/pram/carseat in the room with you.

or whilst you bounce it in a bouncy chair

Maternity Nurse is not a professional title, definitely not. She has NO qualifications whatsoever. Her advice is dangerous and in blatant contradiction of years - decades - of research. And she bought that fucking uniform from a fancy dress shop, I bet.

Come back, Gina. All is forgiven.

And, frankly, if I was left to cry for the three or so hours between each feed, I'd have given up bothering by 12 weeks.

So yes, it probably can "work" but I think you fuck up your baby in the process.

Still, at least you can "get your life back" eh?

If you're going to have a creature in the house that you feed to a schedule and don't cuddle much, get a hamster, ffs.

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What an upsetting programme. And what a hideous woman.