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southeastdweller · 13/04/2020 08:38

It's a three part drama about the Who Wants to be a Millionaire coughing scandal in 2001.

www.radiotimes.com/news/2020-04-08/quiz-itv-drama-air-date-cast-trailer/

Anyone else planning on watching it?

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fratellia · 15/04/2020 21:08

Yeah I remember it being reported they had some sort of row after in the dressing room and the wife was really unhappy. Wasn’t there speculation the plan wasn’t for him to go the whole way and she was unhappy he’d got carried away and played to 1 million. Maybe because of the extra suspicion that would throw them under rather than settling for a bit less?

Trapordo · 15/04/2020 21:32

I've just finished episode two. I know they were found guilty in the end but what was the punishment? Prison or just no millin quid? Or both?

JediJim · 15/04/2020 21:38

Trapordo,They were all given suspended prison sentences, they didn’t get the money and the Ingrams got fined for legal fees I think..

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 15/04/2020 21:41

Suspended sentence, I think

TitianaTitsling · 15/04/2020 21:54

Well I wasn't expecting that! 🎶🕺💃

WellGoshDarnIt · 15/04/2020 21:55

Bit weird!

CherryBakebadly · 15/04/2020 22:11

I don’t think they did it. And I’m so sad about their pets being attacked.

SwedishEdith · 15/04/2020 22:23

I'd like a whole programme on Paddy Spooner and that network. Fascinating.

TitianaTitsling · 15/04/2020 22:25

I don't think they did it either.

Quarantino · 15/04/2020 22:42

With the caveat that I'm sure there are loads of aspects of the court case that weren't even touched on in this dramatic retelling - based on what they showed I don't know whether they did it or not but there's surely no way a jury could be beyond reasonable doubt about it?

1 - the phone call between Diana and Tecwen lasting 8 minutes? that's not enough to set up an elaborate scheme. Unless there were more comms.

2 - what even was the plan supposed to be? They said that there was 'coughing to indicate no' on one question but the other ones, a cough meant 'yes'. Unless it was one cough = yes, two = no? Why did they not ascertain a specific logic to the plan?

3- The lack of coughing at all over several questions in a row where Charles must've just known or guessed the answer. And was his pattern of answering different on these questions? As they pointed out, how would the co-conspirator know what he knew?

4 - Lack of comparison to some baseline level of coughing and answers being given - they touched on that with showing the Judith Keppel tape but surely a fuller analysis would've been useful?

5 - Only the edited tape being evidence, rather than giving several versions from different mic feeds. And the main other prosecution evidence being that people thought it was fishy/weird etc?

Trapordo · 15/04/2020 22:42

The UK legal system is so confusing. There's no clear evidence to say they did what they've been punished for (by suspended sentence). So, how does the work?

There's reasonable doubt... Isn't there? O'e of the biggest things in law is suppose to be 'prove it'. But all that's been proved is that it looks very suspicious. Nothing else to back it up really

Carbosug · 15/04/2020 22:46

There certainly didn't seem to be enough evidence, if tonight's programme was accurate, to convict them.

WinterIsGone · 15/04/2020 22:52

if tonight's programme was accurate
It's a drama, and it did start with a sentence saying it wasn't 100% accurate - can't remember what the exact phrase was.
Reading about it at the time, I felt there seemed little doubt he was guilty.

SESthebrave · 15/04/2020 22:56

I have to confess that I’d always thought them guilty but realise now that that was because of media reporting.

Watching it with DS these last 3 nights, who is young enough not to remember the case, he is convinced they are innocent. I certainly think there is reasons doubt based on what these 3 evenings have presented.

Not directly related to the case, but I do find it strange though that the brother was allowed in the fastest finger first chair 4 times as well as then his sister appearing on it and then his BIL!

chomalungma · 15/04/2020 22:57

The fact that Chris Tarrant didn't hear the coughs is irrelevant,

As the lawyer said, the brain is a funny thing. Do people know the gorilla and the basketball experiment?

Everyone would be focused on the contestant. So wouldn't hear or remember hearing any coughs. The brain is like that. It can filter out stuff when it is focused.

The contestant would be focused on the coughs. So would be listening for them.

So it's true that Chris would say he didn't hear it. It does not mean they didn't happen.

Clawdy · 15/04/2020 23:02

I wasn't 100% sure, but if I'd been on that jury, I couldn't have found them guilty.

chomalungma · 15/04/2020 23:04

I wasn't 100% sure, but if I'd been on that jury, I couldn't have found them guilty

It's a TV drama. A reconstruction, with lots of stuff not shown.

IDefinitelyHaveFriends · 15/04/2020 23:05

The drama was pretty accurate but not necessarily complete. The four pagers looked dodgy as fuck.

WinterIsGone · 15/04/2020 23:07

No-one just no-one would have risked losing all that money on the final question when they didn't absolutely know the answer, unless they were cheating. It's inconceivable.

chomalungma · 15/04/2020 23:08

It's also in the drama that you saw them at home afterwards, and they didn't say anything about being guilty, so all that is feeding into people's cognitive biases.

But of course, we have the confirmation bias at the start, trying to make us think they are guilty.

The brain, and how we perceive events and shape them, is fascinating.

What is truth....

Clawdy · 15/04/2020 23:09

The killing of the dog, and the spitting and general hatred was rather odd. They hadn't hurt or injured anyone, there are far worse crimes committed!

Quarantino · 15/04/2020 23:09

Yes the 4 pagers thing was very odd. Now that would have at least been a scheme that would've made sense - if it had worked! Unlike 'listen for some coughs that might mean that's the right answer or might mean it's wrong'.... Grin

Also what's annoying me far too much is people focusing on 'he answered Craig David when he'd NEVER EVEN HEARD OF HIM!' He hadn't heard of the album title and didn't know who it was by - why would he (or anyone) assume it must be by someone he'd heard of? It's hardly a smoking gun.It was one of the last 2 answers so obviously had to be plausible even if he didn't know who he was.

Quarantino · 15/04/2020 23:10

No-one just no-one would have risked losing all that money on the final question when they didn't absolutely know the answer, unless they were cheating. It's inconceivable.

That's a good point and feels very weird when you watch the show/the re-created show.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/04/2020 23:11

Their defence barrister certainly put up a good for them and I think I’d have been inclined to go not guilty if it wasn’t for the row Charles and Diana had just after the show. Surely after winning one million you’d be euthoric not arguing about playing too well.
I thought people were despicable though.
Spitting and throwing eggs and the poor dog. I hope they were prosecuted. That was murder.
They allegedly cheated on the game show. It’s hardly a kin to beating up the elderly or kids, is it.
I had to laugh at the coughing out break though of all the trials for it to happen at😂

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