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The Dirty War on the NHS. (John Pilger documentary)

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HeIenaDove · 17/12/2019 21:14

starts at 10.45pm tonight on ITV1

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HeIenaDove · 17/12/2019 22:45

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ssd · 17/12/2019 22:47

Apparently the government stopped this from being shown before the election.

ssd · 17/12/2019 22:47

I mentioned it on another thread but no one answered me.

CoolCarrie · 17/12/2019 22:48

I can’t bear to watch this, but will, better to be informed I suppose.

CoolCarrie · 17/12/2019 22:51

That’s not surprising ssd, keep people ignorant and keep them down. ITV were being ridiculous not to show this, they don’t need to be seen to be impartial surely? That’s meant to be the BBC’s job.

HeIenaDove · 17/12/2019 22:53

Jesus wept.

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ssd · 17/12/2019 22:54

Totally

HeIenaDove · 17/12/2019 23:01

"Britains deadly disease was class"

Powerful stuff.

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CoolCarrie · 17/12/2019 23:02

There is a drama on Thursday this week, The Cure I think it’s called about a scandal in the NHS which will be a hard watch, but important.

HeIenaDove · 17/12/2019 23:05

Thanks for the heads up Carrie.

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CoolCarrie · 17/12/2019 23:07

I have to say it would have been better if someone else had been the narrator on this. I know it’s John Pilgers project but he doesn’t have the greatest delivery, I know that’s nit picking.

HeIenaDove · 17/12/2019 23:12

This is now the top trend on Twitter

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HeIenaDove · 17/12/2019 23:15

John Pilger
@johnpilger
Before the election, publicity for the ITV broadcast of my film, The Dirty War on the NHS, was subject to an embargo at the very time that the film's theme, the sell-off of the NHS, was at the forefront of British politics. The ITV broadcast is now on Tuesday 17 Dec, at 10.45pm.

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CoolCarrie · 17/12/2019 23:16

It’s on Channel four on Thursday at 9 pm , Sue Johnston is in it, and it looks like it’s going to be very hard watch.

CoolCarrie · 17/12/2019 23:18

Glad to see it’s on Twitter, pity it wasn’t on earlier instead of hiding it away , it’s 1:17 am with me here in South Africa, but I’m going to stick with it.

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HeIenaDove · 18/12/2019 16:16

twitter.com/MrGarethOwens/status/1207294609287786496?s=20

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HeIenaDove · 18/12/2019 17:27

Great interview with John Pilger about this documentary The Dirty War On The NHS and the effect on patients. The election, the outcome of the election and BBC bias. Also discussing the regulators decision to not allow the broadcast of this documentary until after the election.

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HeIenaDove · 18/12/2019 20:36

www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-12-18/how-a-doctor-who-has-never-seen-you-can-say-youre-fit-enough-to-sleep-on-the-streets

How a doctor who has never seen you can say you're fit enough to sleep on the streets
Over 100 councils have paid a private company to assess vulnerable people applying for help with homelessness

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ssd · 18/12/2019 22:49

Jesus christ

The John pilger documentary was crowd funded, dh donated ages ago

HeIenaDove · 18/12/2019 23:20

www.24housing.co.uk/news/hancock-hints-at-closer-integration-of-the-housing-and-health/

Hancock hints at closer integration of housing and health
Health Secretary tells Policy Exchange: “We must hardwire good health into housing.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has hinted at a closer integration of the housing and health agendas planned by the ‘People’s Government’.

Hancock told the Policy Exchange: “We must hardwire good health into housing, transport, education, welfare, and the economy because we all know preventing ill health – mental and physical – is about more than just healthcare.”

The NHS long-term plan published early this year pitches place-based population health and investment in community-based solutions at a preventative level.

That was taken as pushing beyond provision of supported housing, and into how housing associations can leverage their social investment activity toward resident health and wellbeing.

Key issues for combining housing and health include:

Expansion of integrated care develop over the next five years
Development of population health at the level of place
Housing’s place in an integrated care system
Greater collaboration to address homelessness
Aligning investment across neighbourhoods to deliver health benefits for residents
Using place-based responses to improve experience of older age
Writing for 24housing, HACT chief executive Andrew Van Doorn said the role of housing in place-based population health will be “crucial” to the future success of the NHS.

Van Doorn referenced the role of housing in Primary Care Networks and Integrated Care Networks as “very important”, with housing associations as anchor institutions having the assets and resources to make a difference not only to residents’ lives, but to their local communities

The long-term plan recognised that to address the needs of the population now and in the future there needs to be investment in community-based solutions at a preventative level, as well as in redesigning healthcare services to bring together new delivery partners,” he said.

Some housing providers are name-checked as delivering “exceptional” health services, with Nottingham City Homes seen as a trailblazer with its Housing to Health service, estimated as saving the public purse over £2.1m last year.

Radian and Polar HARCA are pioneering social prescribing services in their local areas.

The GLA recognises the role that housing associations can play in delivering social prescribing services in the capital.

HACT, itself, is also working with numerous housing and health providers toward an integrated approach

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HeIenaDove · 18/12/2019 23:22

This is MORE privatisation Housing associations are not charities. They are private companies. Private companies who do not come under the FOI.

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Whowantstogotothepark · 19/12/2019 01:16

It is a scary documentary. I live in Australia where there is a two-tier system. A basic NHS system and private on top. It works for the most part very well. I don't think introducing private elements into the NHS is necessarily a bad thing in principle. Many countries have some sort of private health care - including scandinavian countries.

However, I do NOT trust the tories to do it in a socially responsible way. And as this program shows, they are doing by stealth, not being honest with UK citizens and allowing companies to cut corners for profit.

BTW one thing that shocked me was the council of Westminster wanting to make it illegal to give food to homeless people - this was in 2010 and it didn't go through. But fucking hell, who's mind works in that way?!

fallfallfall · 19/12/2019 01:22

Helena that sounds like they want to prioritize housing to those with high mental and physical health needs.
This could quickly turn a complex into an unofficial assisted living with no onsite assistance.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 19/12/2019 01:25

That was bloody grim.

1As for the stuff we saw about the US, I have several American friends so am hardly unaware but still found it shocking. Imagine an insurance company refusing to pay for essential transplants!

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