Has anyone watched The Staircase on Netflix? I need to talk about it

[SouthWestmom]

Just that really. I don't know what to think.

Noeuf Wed 03-Jul-19 19:38:51
Blue it's addictive I've literally watched all 13 episodes back to back while the kids were at school. So interesting to see people age and develop alongside it.

I just don't know. He definitely has some charisma and was so calm all the time in prison and with the lawyers and his family.
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I can't wait to watch it! Might stay up tonight.

Envious blue , it's such a good documentary

Oh I watched this last year - totally addictive, and as others have said said I changed my mind episode after episode.

I just don't feel like the initial investigation answered questions for me, now we know it's because of Deaver. But hasn't Lee also been discredited?

I thought he was probably guilty but I didn’t feel like they’d really proved it beyond reasonable doubt. The forensics just didn’t seem to match the prosecution theory. The lack of cast-off spatter really troubled me. I don’t think her death was a simple accident though. I think there was an altercation of some kind and that he had a role in her death.

There is something deeply weird about him and his relationship with his kids and the whole thing just smells fishy. When he is talking about the whole affair in the later episodes, his manner just sets off warning bells for me of something being wrong. I think he is guilty but I don't understand all of the evidence. It's just a gut feeling based on the way he comes across.

Do you think maybe he knows more but isn't guilty? Like he saw her fall and left her ?

That's still murder, surely, to leave someone to die and then lie about it?

I think some of the kids know, too. I think all of them probably know something's not right, and others know all about it. The whole dynamic in that house was so odd.

I have it on now, matchsticks keeping my eyelids up.

Blue! That's so funny. Where are you up to?

Yes I agree that would be murder. I guess I'm trying to think of something to explain the weird vibe. His ex wife was very odd , and the two adopted kids I felt so sorry for.

There’s a fairly key price of forensic evidence that the doc just leaves out. I agree it seems astonishing that they find him guilty based on the evidence they show. But when you read further it becomes apparent they leave out some pretty damning stuff.

I don’t want to spoil it for people watching though.

Ohh @MonteStory what is it!? PM me please😁

Ah finally found it! I’ve been looking for the place I originally read it as it was s few years ago I watched this doc.

www.reddit.com/r/TheStaircase/comments/8q8c9x/what_the_documentary_left_out/
Hmm can’t remember how to make it clicky.

It was recommended to me by a friend who’s a judge!

You need to listen to the BBC podcast on this - Beyond Reasonable Doubt. I went to the recording of the last episode at the London Podcast festival and Chris Warburton who had interviewed the guy face to face was pretty clear in his conclusion during the unrecorded Q and A afterwards. Clue: He wasn't innocent

I really don't know.. it's frustrating that some of these cases will never have an answer! I do think the amount of blood was inconsistent with a fall down the stairs though.. surely you'd bump your head a few times and then maybe bleed out on the last one, but not all over the wall like that? Hmm.

Oh that's interesting. My book arrives today.

I've been distracted on Netflix by 'because you watched' and I'm watching the Fyre Festival documentary now

The fact that she used his computer and found the gay porn the night she then ‘fell down the stairs’, and that the other lady had also ‘fallen down the stairs’ are both rather damning.

This for me too.

Second the ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ bbc podcast

@Noeuf - the same was suggested to us!
I had not idea what had happened in Fyre and was totally

I think the owl definitely did it! Very David Lynch...

@IamAporcupine I watched it , like a lemming, and was just OMG! That party and those tents!

None of it quite adds up, does it? The injuries and the fact the girls are so convinced he's innocent. I also think perhaps owl! It's bizarre but it could have happened. I heard a podcast the other day where a neighbour is quite obsessed with this theory and says that recorded owl strike injuries are consistent with Kathleen's. Very sad, however she really died.

and that the other lady had also ‘fallen down the stairs’ are both rather damning.

Exactly.

It was also recommended to me by a judge who said he’s either guilty or the unluckiest man in the world.

I think his age is irrelevant, there are plenty of murderers who didn’t kill until a late age. We’ll never know if he was abusive towards her during their marriage either.