LOVE ISLAND THREAD 11 - it's arsehole Wednesday!

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Not hump day anymore, it's arsehole Wednesday! Wooo

I don't think Amy will be rattled, she's already planning her wedding in her head.

This is an interesting perspective about Yewande, from Vogue magazine.

"Her short stint embodied the grace and confidence so many black women must have in a world that tells us we’re less than."

www.vogue.co.uk/article/why-love-islander-yewande-bialas-departure-was-inevitable

I dont think Danny is completely innocent, was it when amber walked away and he was speaking to michael he shouted "see this is what your boyfriend thinks" that's just dragging michael in to it, potentially causing an issue there.

I dont dislike Danny, but he plays up to whatever the vibe in the villa is at the time, he was sweet and patient with Yewande, Arabella he was flirty and confident and last night he was oh so mature. Amber picks up on that i think, thats why they keep saying you act differently and sneaky.

I don’t like Danny at all, I really didn’t buy him being into Yewande at all. Arabella is confrontational and I thought she was getting a dig in before the recoupling when she was talking about how she’s going to do yoga the next day (I.e I’m staying in). She always smiles when she says things to deflect from the fact she’s being a bitch.

I don't dislike Danny but he's not innocent!

I think it was wrong that Yewande was made to feel there was something was wrong with her boundaries. If she didn't want to drape herself over someone she had only known for a few days - fine, you can still get to know someone and be interested in them! He was very pushy and clingy. She finally opened up to him, and he downplayed his intentions with Arabella, leading her on.
And he was played so easily by Arabella! I think he's still got some maturing to do in some ways.

Yes, Arabella has played him like a fiddle and he hasn’t even noticed.

The media are really trying to drag this Yewande situation on she is not the victim in this at all. I can't go on Twitter without seeing some pathetic comment about Arabella with her name spelt wrong and how Danny will get what's coming. So boring it's a TV show these people need to get over it! Acting like Yewande was the best LI contestant ever when she was so dull and rude.

Why the hell is Anna ok with Jordan telling her she was childish and pathetic?!

Because she was.

I think it was wrong that Yewande was made to feel there was something was wrong with her boundaries. If she didn't want to drape herself over someone she had only known for a few days - fine, you can still get to know someone and be interested in them! He was very pushy and clingy. She finally opened up to him, and he downplayed his intentions with Arabella, leading her on. And he was played so easily by Arabella! I think he's still got some maturing to do in some ways.*

You have missed some large chunks out. He decided to back off and was also thinking they were compatible. He had backed off. The same night Yewande was complaining that she didnt like Danny and they werent compatible.

Arabella came in the next day and Yewande moaned to Micheal that Danny wasnt trying hard enough. Micheal told her he had tried and she couldnt pretend he hadnt.

It was only when Yewande realised Danny was interested in Arabella, did she decide to change. It was actually the rest of then that pushed and coached her to be affectionate. Not Danny.

@butmaybe have just seen that article WTF. She was not gracious in the slightest. Her behaviour was embarrassing and ungracious and immature. I am fed up with the whole "we must love her because she's black" and "she is our queen" crap. I honestly think if she was white she would have no support in this scenario it's so odd.

butmaybe That's not what happened though. Yewande didn't even talk to him. He had a conversation (I'm sure with her) saying she never even approached him to talk. He felt he was always instigating their interactions, so he left it one day and they didn't talk at all. He wasn't asking for her to be 'draped all over him'.

And I'll say it again, they're in a game. The usual rules don't apply; there's not the time for stuff to develop naturally. If you're not feeling like there's interest/chemistry/sparks or whatever then your only way of staying, and winning, is to find someone else. Danny simply played the game.

I did summarise their love (well, maybe-like) story!
But the main points stand - he wasn't honest and he definitely got played.

There is a lot of horrible OTT stuff on Twitter, but I think the Vogue article was an intelligent insight into what Yewande was up against.

She wasn't dull, she was quiet but the people in the villa who saw more of her seem very fond of her, and she could calmly stand up for herself. I really don't think she was rude! But I think that's been discussed to death...

I can't wait to see tonight's episode

And tbf I'm sick of Amy's friends and family moaning about people's view of her. No death threats are never acceptable and I will never ever condone that but people saying she seems like a bitch and fake are spot on and have formed this view based on her own actions. Smug nasty and rude she is and has sealed her own fate

@GeriTe -it's clearly made you defensive but maybe think about it before you get angry and dismiss it - I don't think you've got the point the article is making.

@ILoveYou3000 I do see your point about the game. But who knows, if Danny had let it play out more naturally, gone at a slower pace then they may have made a better couple and had a better chance of winning? I don't think he has a strong chance with Arabella.

Hmm I wouldn't say defensive but I'm pretty bored of the whole Yewande debate now it is so over done now everyone needs to move on

butmaybe but the summary wrong. Is it js coincidence it paint Danny in a poorer light and casts Yewande as the victim.

The night before Arabella came in. She was stood round the fire pit tell curtis and Amy that he was needy. She wasnt going to open up, ever, and that they went compatible. Danny was about 15ft away and she was talking loudly. 24 hours she was all ove him. The only thing that changed was that he backed off, which she wanted came Arabella came in and took Danny on a date.

So Yewande wasnt honest about her intentions. Which side of her was she faking? The cold and closed off part was faked? Or the affection was faked?

Yes he should have told her. But as I have said before, when she came up to him and told him she liked him and kissed him, if he had told her he was keeping his options open, there would have chaos then.

Yewande also tried to play Danny. Either she was trying the 'treat 'em mean, to keep 'em keen' and it back fired. Or she was that desperate to stay, she faked affection for him.

Obvs need to wait for the whole show but I’ve always said Lucie likes Tommy. However I think hes quite taken with MM.

I’m not sure why the focus on MM about looking for love. Do any of the contestants actually go in there for anything other than fame or cash?

I actually think MM seems to be quite confident & have her head screwed on ( handled the Maura situation maturely) so she can probably “take” the tweets as opposed to some other contestants.

The Yewande debate matters to some people though, GeriTe and they won't be able to just move on. Like I said though, its been done to death on here! Still think the article is worth reading, gave me a different perspective.

Protein I think the quick ramping up of affection was the bit she faked - clearly that wasn't natural for her! But I don't think she would have pulled away if he hadn't started moaning about affection and he should have just been a bit braver about his intentions and just told her after he'd made the point about his head never turning, he should have warned her. They were both/all playing the game and I agree Yewande wasn't great at it. But we'll never know what could have been!

So looking forward to tonight's :)

Posted this On the wrong thread shouldn't try to multi task

So according to the mirror Anna tells Maura what Tom said last night!! Come on Maura you can do so much better than him!!! Cough Anton cough

I feel a bit sorry for MM in that she’s hardly the only person in there I’d question whether their intentions were pure and simply ‘true love’. Also Anton was quite ok with Lucie not following Joe and has made sure she stays in to find someone else, so why is he so concerned with whether Molly would follow Tommy? I doubt Tommy would follow her either, his ‘from the moment she came in we had an undeniable connection I’ve found the girl of my dreams’ speech seems more fake to me than MM’s slightly more guarded approach. I get that it definitely took Maura coming in for her to stop thinking everyone else was ‘just her type’ but she’s seemed pretty happy with him since. I love Anton but do worry why he seems to really have it in for MM - I know she pied him but so has pretty much every girl in the villa and he doesn’t hold it against them. And I didn’t see him telling Yewande ‘you made your bed you lie in it’ like he did MM.

Lucie definitely fancies Tommy, she can do her ‘I’m just a tomboy who gets on with the boys’ schtick as much as she likes but it’s been obvious she likes him for ages. I keep expecting another Meghan/Wes scenario where she swoops in and whisks him off. Though she’s not nearly as hard faced as Meghan was so probably not.

Is it always the boys that get to go to Casa Amor?

Typo - I don’t ‘worry’ why Anton has it in for MM, I do wonder though!

I think Anton fancies MM and that's why he said it he's jealous. He said on After Sun interview he thinks MM is the fittest girl in there and he would like to kiss her the most.

Checking in!

Sure I read today that this time it’s the girls who move to Casa Amor

Yes good point about Lucie not being criticised for leaving with Joe. Apparently she was surprised other people thought they were not going to last but now Anton wants her to have a chance to find love.

Lucie is not a Megan type though so I can’t see her stealing anyone.