Shut Ins: Britain's Fattest People

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Anyone watching?

Quite interesting. Very sad

So sad to see such a young woman in this way. It must be awful to be her parents though, how would you handle it? Thinking of her little boys watching her just binge day after day too. It’s sad because she seems to have a loyal loving partner and she seems a bright young woman who is fully aware of all her issues. I really hope she sticks to the weight loss.

I did notice her dad said “what have you done to earn these,” when holding a packet of chocolates, which seems such an unhealthy attitude to food (rewarding yourself like a dog!)

Yes I thought it was a bit of an 'odd' thing, for want of a better word, to say

yeah there's definitely some issues with the parents I think,

Something I read in BMJ recently, comparing 3 types of weight loss surgery. Long term outcomes (6+ yrs, I think).

The most drastic (had the mosts risks but most successful) led to a mean weight loss of 25% of the starting weight. That stunned me. If someone starts at 30 stone and loses 7.5 stone, that's great... but they are still quite obese. And it's a best scenario result. The other methods had net long term reductions of just 12 or 18% net weight loss, iirc. Truly not a miracle cure on average.

A relative had surgery and has kept 50% of her original weight off for 15 or 20 years (so now just slightly overweight). One of the lucky ones, I guess... but she's had loads of gastric issues, some life threatening, from the surgery. Maybe not so lucky.

I think this has been an interesting series.
It has shown quite clearly that surgery is not a magic wand, like many people think, and that it still takes an awful lot of effort from the patient, to make this "successfull".
It doesn't result in a "normal" life for the patient, even if the weight loss is evident.
I think it shows where you can end up if you don't take back control of your unhealthy lifestyle.
No-one goes to bed one night weighing 9 stone and wakes up next day weighing 25 stone.
At what point does one decide enough is enough?

Agree with others, Dad last night was not helping her situation albeit he may have meant well.
To me, he was just adding to her self loathing.

I wish there was some sort of update,it felt unfinished!

I do think the Dad came across as angry and confrontational. I think he's scared for her and it's coming out like that. But I think her parents controlled her eating rather than teach self esteem, self confidence and self control. I think all binge eating is for emotional reasons. I feel sad for her.

It is sad

I think the lack of knowledge and ignorance surrounding that level of eating disorder is glaring both from her parents, society in general im.glad she was seeing a therapist. We need to wake up in regards to how we treat sufferers of extreme obesity, its like a shaming an alchoholic. I was pleasantly surprised to see similar mindset on twitter amongst the usual horrible stuff,

That’s really interesting MedSchool and like you say, quite sobering if you think about it. I would’ve expected a lot more weight loss than that, but I guess unless you start exercising and changing your whole lifestyle as well you’re not actually going to lose that much weight, even if you don’t put any more on.

I think the dad in this latest episode was clearly very worried for his daughter, but didn’t have a clue how to help her. I mean, if just telling her to ‘stick to a diet’ would work I’m sure she’d have done it herself before! The change in her at the end seemed quite promising though, I hope she manages to get down to a healthy weight.

I knew that this kind of surgery wasn't a magic wand and a lot of people are still really obese after, just less. I'm surprised people don't know this more

Last gal is in the Daily Wail this week, ran a 5km (with her Pa, I think).

I've just read that article.

As someone whose life is vastly improved by weight loss surgery and parkrun I salute her.

I got so angry at her dad, and her mum too TBH. So very critical and shaming. They are likely at the end of their tethers but I also wonder if their attitudes had actually been like that from an early age and contributed to her problems more than they solved it.

Even the exercise class she went to was probably not the best idea, making her utterly exhausted and clearly panicky, did they really expect her to suddenly cope with a class like that? Why not go for a walk with her or do something gentle that she would actually cope with?

That said it does seem she is able to turn things around now. Really shocked about the long term data for these surgeries, although I do remember on that secret eaters show there was someone who’d had WLS, he overate and threw up and then carried on eating because he’d made room in his much reduced stomach :( it’s really not a quick fix

totally agreed Peggy we need to start differentiating types of overeating and levels of overweight, we need to treat it as an eating disorder with lots of psychological help inthe same sensitive way we do anorexia,bulimia etc

gastric band makes a big difference

Just watching this weeks now with the young mum. I'm wondering if the twin brothers being born when she was 9 or 10 exacerbated her eating issues.

I haven't finished it yet, but I was surprised that her mother is very overweight after being so critical of her dd's weight. I agree that binge eating like this is an eating disorder and should be treated as one. I think the shame the binge eater feels compounds their need for comfort eating. Society judges you rather than support you. I feel the same about food as the girl did. In times of emotional stress I have turned to food and it makes me feel calm. I'm trying to find an alternative so I can get to a healthy weight.

And yet she seems quite close to her parents

that gastric band comment was meant to end with but not the full answer ,

Such limited snapshots of their lives, it's hard to tell any truths.
Johnny seemed very lovely.
I thought Emily was very brave.
I suspect her dad could be overbearing & controlling & that was the roots of why she started sneaking food. (Also thought dad was very loving, but I am a tough love person so I get that combo).
BUT, She's a grown-up now. Time to let go of the childish perspectives. Whoever was to blame for her past, she's in charge of her future. I hope she continues to improve & slim down.

Do you think she’s claiming as a single mum and pretends her partner wasn’t living there? They did a hell of a lot if they weren’t a couple, and he was always there.

I don't know there are people like this who are amicable. It's rare but it can happen

Anyone watching this tonight?