21 kids and counting

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Just watching the latest episode - how on earth do they afford to run that household? iPhones for the kids, holidays to Spain for 20 people, a new kitchen.

There is no way a bakery would generate that much money. Would channel 4 really pay that well for their participation in the programme?

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At least though they actually let the children sleep in separate bedrooms; the Duggars have one dorm for the girls and one for the boys, so you potentially have a toddler sleeping in with those who are in their 20's. When Josh was caught cheating and sent to 'rehab' his wife and 4 children had to move into the girls' dorm. Considering the house is 20,000sq feet you would think that they might let her have her own room with her kids, but no

I'd have the bedroom in the basement as a walk in wardrobe for school uniforms etc.

Surely there must be a toyroom somewhere?! Most rooms have kallax storage so I'm assuming they are used for clothes.

All the bedrooms need moved around if you ask me, all the little ones on the top floor and I couldn't see a stairgate. Only one at the bottom stair.

The room wasn't a cupboard it was a box room.

And girls shared not 5.

It doesn't make a huge different but it's still there.

I suspect that MN message refers to when they were prosecuted by a famous cry-it-our author for allowing defamatory discussions and had to settle with that individual outside of court in order to save the business. The changes their TG since but that is why threads like this get zapped.

The room for the two toddler girls has no window. That must mean it's a walk in cupboard.

I thought the reason the Duggers kept all the girls together was because it was safety in numbers.

No with the Duggars they force a collective attitude towards the family, it's in Gothard's teachings that promoting people as individuals encourages negative traits and they are more likely to flee. So all girls in together and the same with the boys. They did the same with clothing, they all wore the same polo shirt in the same colour. The Duggars said it was because it was easier for washing and identifying each other when out in public, but it is about herd mentality. If you look at pictures of many of the fundies they are all matching.

That's over £3,000 a month in tax credit and child benefit

If the figures are correct then they actually get a lot more in benefits than a lot of the vilified unemployed parents with 5/6 kids you see in the Daily mail

Re the house tour, I thought the house was fine. I think only the older kids get their own bedroom at a certain age which is why you see a room with 4 girls in then several rooms with only one person in.

Where the bloody hell are social services??? There are not enough adults (or kids aged 18+) to that amount of kids. There just isn't? 🤷🏼‍♀️

Also, they get £3.5k per WEEK in Child Benefit and child tax credits

Also, they get £3.5k per WEEK in Child Benefit and child tax credits

I'm not a Radford fan, as you can tell from posts on here, but where do you get this information from?

£700 a week

That's over £3,000 a month in tax credit and child benefit 

I'm not a Redford fan, can't stand them. But 3K for a family of 21 doesn't sound like much to me. Not when you put it into perspective. Some people's combined salary is that and they just about get by with 2 children.

Obviously this particular family have other means of income too, but £3K for 21 children, or even 15 bloody children, doesn't sound much to me

If it was a children's home, it would be strictly regulated, fully staffed, properly catered and social services would no doubt have some involvement etc etc. Yet because they have created a self made children's home, with two adults and a couple of 18+ kids helping out, they're left to raise 17 young children!!! It's madness.

Oh, and the way Chloe shouted at them kids when she was making that cake really got to me. How awful.

Those poor, poor children

Mummy I feel sorry for Chloe, for the lot of them, this has bee thrust upon them. It is not her choice to look after those kids. She dropped out of uni probably pusuaded by her parents, as she felt she was needed at home. What a life!

Yes it isn't a lot but it is £3k more than they are admitting they get (from the state). As I said before I don't care who claims whatever they are entitled to, but the lack of transparency regarding their 'self-sufficient, rely on no-one' claims is what irked me about them.

If the figures are correct then they actually get a lot more in benefits than a lot of the vilified unemployed parents with 5/6 kids you see in the Daily mail

Exactly, and Noel actually made derogatory comments about large families living in council housing. The same newspapers that tore shreds out of much smaller families who admitted they were in receipt of tax credits painted the Radfords as whiter-than-white, grafters who REFUSED (yes, it was always in caps) to accept benefits. It seems that those newspapers have gone full circle and are now attempting to cast a shadow over the Radfords due to the age issue (which was always known about fgs) and the 'benefits' issue may not be long in being mentioned.

I must say that I find them hard to dislike, there is something very simplistic and childlike about them, especially Sue. I am in awe of them not because I aspire to be like them but more in a spectator sport'what's going on there' way. I do find their previous smuggery regarding 'doing it all ourselves' very annoying though. They seemed to have stopped that in the last couple of shows which is good. It was and still is very clear that this is not 2 parents single handedly raising 20 something children, it is extended family, the state and a brood of siblings that are all contributing. As the saying goes "it takes a village" and in their case it is very true.

But 3K for a family of 21 doesn't sound like much to me. Not when you put it into perspective. Some people's combined salary is that and they just about get by with 2 children.

I think the problem is with the benefits propping them up rather than how much they have comparatively to get by. No matter what the actual figure is, it's a shit load of money for one couple to have created a need for.

THEY GET £3.5k PER WEEK IN CHILD BENEFIT & TAX CREDITS!!!!!
This is because the majority of the children were born before the 3 children limit came in

Why have you quoted and replied you yourself mummy?

Yes 3k a month isn't a lot for 21 children but they decided to have 21 children..

@potatoscone I haven't?! I was t quoting I just didn't realise it I had it on caps?

It had nothing to do with the caps. You already said that further up thread. Then you wrote it again and replied to it with 'this is because'

I doubt they get tax credits. Payment for the TV programme and other sponsorship will take them over the limits, and I'd be surprised if the authorities are happy to ignore benefits in kind when calculating eligibility.

I suspect the about turn from the papers may have something to do with the fact that a lot of their readers are families who are/will be affected by UC. Both working and non working families are affected by this change.

Their readers might well start to think "well hang on a min why are we being vilified while this family is being praised. I think the media has been watching the way its going with UC and familes and are pre empting. Hope ive explained that well enough.

Completely agree with Aeroflot Chloe did NOT choose to have children. they were not her choice so not her fault.

and newspapers are hemorageing readers as it is without risking alienating more

Even The Sun has done an about turn on benefits with regard to UC I think there is a correlation here.