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Handmaid’s Tale, Season 2 - FINALE - US pace

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Aridane · 10/07/2018 21:42

This is a continuation of our Season 2 US-paced thread.

Roll on episode 13, the 90 minute season finale!!

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AcrossthePond55 · 11/07/2018 19:16

Obvs these are only my own thoughts.

Just couldn't believe Serena after wanting a baby for so long would just give her up like that

I think Serena is 'broken' after what has happened to her (the beating, the amputation) and for the first time she really sees how powerless she is and that Fred does not see her as an equal and actually enjoys his patriarchal power over her. But she's still 'there' enough to not want that for her child. It begs the question, if the child had been a boy, would Serena have agreed to let June take him away?

and June after attempting to run away so many times would decide to stay

She is staying to try to rescue Hannah. A brave choice, I don't know if I could have been so brave.

I am still unsure of who Emily’s commander was and what his role in Gilead is? I am also confused as to why he went to great lengths to save Emily?

They referred to him as the 'architect of Gilead's economy', so he is/was a 'big cheese'. I think he's trying to expiate what he sees as his wrongdoing in being instrumental in such a cruel regime by 'rescuing' the misfits who would have gone to the colonies/been executed. I think he would have just allowed Emily to live there unmolested, like the 'misfit' Martha and his disturbed wife, but Emily made that impossible.

Why would June have any sympathy or a ‘friendship’ with a woman who held her down to be raped and then took and mothered her child?

I think S and J's relationship is extremely emotionally complicated. I really enjoy the nuances. But June sees that Serena is just as 'dissatisfied' and just as powerless as she is and I think she feels that she deserves to get out and hopefully become a better person.

I cannot put up with another season with being exactly in the same position.

There's no way she can go back to the Waterford's. I think she's going to go to Cmdr Lawrence in the hopes that he'll hide her and/or help her or put her in touch with what's left of May Day.

SophieCatScribbles · 11/07/2018 19:30

I agree Leobynature.

It seemed a bit crow-barred. Lots more they could have done with Emily and Commander I Knew Bradley Was Going To Be A Good Guy :) before she left...

And June? After this stunt, she'd risk being on the wall in no time. She can't go back to dear Fred. Missing child in Gilead?! Too much of a risk if Hannah really is her concern. Only she knows where Hannah is and what her name is now. She could perhaps have engineered her rescue from Canada. Inside Gilead???

Mooey89 · 11/07/2018 20:05

That was an amazing episode.

On the edge of my seat.

So annoyed with June not running. They’ll just kill her surely?!

thiswouldoutmedefinitely · 11/07/2018 20:49

Fgs, the football is on and I'm stuck waiting!!

POPholditdown · 11/07/2018 21:25

I don’t see how June can return and not be killed, and for it to not be full of plot holes?

The Marthas and Mayday probably won’t want risk themselves for her again, Nick has made his involvement clear to Fred now by not allowing him to look for June and the baby. The whole place will be on high alert for Emily. Serena will go ballistic that June essentially left Holly/Nichole with a stranger taking her God knows where.
Also, a baby girl has gone missing just as the Wives tried to fight for female rights. It’s going to look like they were all in on it.

Fred will never let go of June for her to easily go to another Cmdr (ie Lawrence)

If all of the above plot issues are swept under the carpet, and June just slips back into society while working on rescue missions, it will be ridiculous.

Aridane · 11/07/2018 22:00

Felt like slapping June.

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Aridane · 11/07/2018 22:08

Surely,Aunt Lydia can’t have survived that level of violent assault?

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Mooey89 · 11/07/2018 22:33

Nah, Aunt Lydia is definitely gone surely

Killerqueen2244 · 11/07/2018 22:55

I understand why June went back, I guess season 3 will centre around finding Hannah whilst the Mayday simmers below the surface building momentum. Season 4 I think Serena will be strong enough to rebel against Gilead but after that I’m not sure where they can go...and potentially another 8 series?! 🤔 not convinced my nerves can take that much!!!

They can’t kill off Aunt Lydia, I hate her so much but a part of me wants to believe there is a tiny bit of good in her!

Foggymist · 11/07/2018 23:46

@AcrossthePond55 they're in Toronto.

SoftAsACactus · 12/07/2018 00:10

Nicole - Nick

Is that deliberate??

AcrossthePond55 · 12/07/2018 02:02

Foggy, thanks!

BG2015 · 12/07/2018 06:36

I enjoyed it immensely.

I was frustrated June didn't escape but I can see the reasons why.

Can't wait for season 3

Dolphinswimmingupsidedown · 12/07/2018 07:11

I thought it was a great episode but she should have run! Surely she’d have more power from Canada to bring down the regime? She and Emily would have been such a force to be reckoned with if they’d told their stories and been believed. I think series three needs to be the end - they can’t keep dragging it out.

Aridane · 12/07/2018 07:16

Well, undress Commander Lawrence shelters her or a Mayday do, she should be destined for the well, you would think

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Aridane · 12/07/2018 07:16

unless, not undress

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Aridane · 12/07/2018 07:17

Yes, Nichole is / must be a reference to Nick

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Aridane · 12/07/2018 07:18

Dear bible reading Eden - perhaps,the most surprising character in season 2

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OliviaStabler · 12/07/2018 07:50

She can't return to the house surely as she has no power there and I assumed the reason for her staying is to get Hannah.

I was disappointed she didn't run as June would have far more power outside in Canada to get Hannah home imo.

wrimad · 12/07/2018 09:58

I can imagine her finding it impossible to run - she’s sending a daughter to freedom and safety, and must have felt an irresistible urge to stay close by the daughter who is still in danger

barbiegrl · 12/07/2018 09:58

I too was disappointed that June didn't run. I just don't see how she is going to manage in gilead after all she has done. Waterford is going to lose it with Serena, Rita and any other females in the vicinity. I hope next season focuses on bring down of gilead,with Emily,luke and Moira workibg from outside,and mayday,June,nick and the new commander working from inside.
Well done to Serena for seeing that her daughter would grow up in this truly fucked up world,and to agree to get her out.

thegreatbeyond · 12/07/2018 10:11

I never cry at films or tv, but Eden's teddy and poor clothes... :( :( :(

Nick is an official badass for the oh so subtle threats to Fred. I wonder if he kills him?

reeldoop · 12/07/2018 10:24

I dont think Nicole was for Nick. Nicole was whst Serena decided to call Holly (but weird given she knew her parentage?) and June decided to honour that ans keepnit as Nicole to acknowledge that Seeena let her go because she loved her so much and had realised Gilead is a terrible place for women (duh!). It was to acknowledge her sacrifice I think.

I too think it woukd have been easier to mount an operation to get Hannah out from Canada, surely.

papayasareyum · 12/07/2018 11:38

Awesome episode. I wonder what will happen to Serena now. She’s the character I’m most interested in, going forward.

beanaseireann · 12/07/2018 11:39

SoftAsACactus I hadn't thought of the Nicole / Nick name angle.
Very clever.
Serena's way at getting a 'dig' at Fred constantly.
I haven't seen Episode 13 - on tonight in Ireland.