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Celeb Big Brother Thread 12 - Shares in Majestic Wine, McVities and Frog-Suits go through the roof

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AnneEyhtMeyer · 29/01/2018 21:32

Who needs cocoa when you've got a cheeky Sauv Blanc before bed?

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SinisterBumFacedCat · 01/02/2018 10:44

I didn't say sever people! The alternate, a full blown slanging match would not go down well in my office. It seems now credit is only given to the "if I don't like you I'll say it to your face" types rather than those who avoid conflict or try to be a bit diplomatic. If BB was full of confrontational people al we would get is arguments.

mirialis · 01/02/2018 10:46

I'm sure you wouldn't talk to several people. He did though. And that doesn't look good to the team. Which is why so many of them nominated him.

QuiQuaiQuod · 01/02/2018 11:35

I don't dislike Shane J his points and opinions are valid however he needs to accept everything is not a cause he can't speak for every person who happens to have a same sex partner /spouse.

This^^ Thats why i prefer Wayne and Amandas getting on with things.

Im glad Anne shared her views at the end, shes not stupid, she knows exactly what people think of her, yet she sticks to her own principles. and btw, Im anti-abortion too. I dont agree with other things she says but thats her personal or religious view.

yet Shane J can spout poutilly about all his principles and the public think he's 'cool' and hes never wrong? everyone has their views and morals, no ones right or wrong.

Thought Ashley spoke very well to Anne about relationships.

and CBB would have been very boring without Anne there, and prob would have decended into its usual bonk and tits fest.

Thibnk the older ones have been a good influence on Jess and Ashley. and Jonny.

QuiQuaiQuod · 01/02/2018 11:36

Anne Im also ont eh fence with Wayne, he goes from one extreme to the other with his attitude to Ann doesnt he?

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 01/02/2018 13:13

I think it's seen, by contestants at least, as very much the done thing to go directly to people and thrash out any issues you have with them and people who are later found not to have done that are then seen as in some way deceptive.

That was the crux of the 'who's the most honest' line up wasn't it. Those who regard being honest as fronting up to everything rather than simply not telling untruths. I thought Jess and Wayne struggled with that and I would've too, because placing someone at the end of that line didn't mean they thought that person was dishonest, maybe just less confrontational. They both used the term brutally honest I think, rather meaning I think you say too much that doesn't really need to be said.

In a work situation you might choose to keep quiet but confide with someone you trust outside of the workplace, or you may ask for a second opinion from someone you're close to professionally, or you might take the view that work is only a part of your life and you get to go home and leave the problem aside. In these sorts of shows, not only can they not do that, but there is almost no escape, even when they sleep their problem person could be in the next room, the next bed, or even lying next to them Shock

I think it's really easy for us to forget how much of a pressure cooker environment it must be and how it can affect people such as Malika, while people like Shane L and Ann seem unscathed. The time must drag so much and there's so little stimulation I suppose it's inevitable that the same conversations go around in circles.

Missrabbitneedsabreak · 01/02/2018 13:38

I agree en issues with other housemates probably get so magnified in there as there is little else to do. I can see why you'd end up being a dog with a bone. It's like when elderly people get isolated and they start thinking about the past and can get fixated and bitter about certain things, because they have little distraction (this is what happened to my gran anyway!). Mundane and trivial indifferences can suddenly seem huge if there's little else to talk or think about. They are probably so bored I'm not surprised they inevitably just start gossiping about each other. I still can't see that Shane is sly or mean or goady etc. I just don't get it

OnTheList · 01/02/2018 14:12

Have you all seen this preview of tonight? Obviously contains spoilers

twitter.com/MollBBUK/status/958835461681803269

Ann absolutely amazing Grin Cannot wait for this

mirialis · 01/02/2018 14:36

Just finally caught up with BOTS - that made me chuckle List. IW is going to be gunning for AW.

OnTheList · 01/02/2018 14:36

I can't see the problem with Ann winning. What do you think is going to happen - Britain's youth are going to turn anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage because Ann Widdecombe won CBB? No chance.

Indeed. I hate how some seem to think that someone needs to be a good 'rolemodel' to win BB. Since when? Seems to be just this year, and ever since Shane has started banging on about it Grin

Craftylady28 · 01/02/2018 14:38

We saw him say don't victim blame when they were all talking about Trump/Weinstein and we saw him say we women might feel emasculated by having doors opened for us.
Yet he's at fault for the other ladz not listening/learning from him?

Craftylady28 · 01/02/2018 14:40

And as I said earlier, if we were all watched/filmed 24/7, then our entire day was edited into 50 most interesting/watchable/controversial minutes of that day, then I can say with certainty that every one of us would make a few comments that others didn't like, and a lot of us would have at least one or two chats when they're talking negatively about another HM.

mirialis · 01/02/2018 14:48

No, I have not once said that he is at fault for that. Sinister already asked me about that and I addressed it.

channels a bit of AW Grin

mirialis · 01/02/2018 14:50

Crafty - 6 housemates nominated him. They were not watching a condensed hour of telly.

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 01/02/2018 14:58

Yes, the only housemate who didn't nominate Shane J is Malika. Malika and Shane J both voted the same, for Ann and Amanda.

Craftylady28 · 01/02/2018 15:14

Yes, 6 nominated him - however Malika is the only one he was close to in the house at that time, and the others were closer with each other so were bound to nominate him.
Altho I do have to admit that I zone out when they're giving their reasons for the noms, so I'm not completely sure of the reasons given.
Anyway, I just feel like Shourtney is getting the brunt of the complaints on here, but I don't really see why he's being regarded as SO much worse than some other HMs.
They all have pluses and negatives, I just personally don't see Shourtney as being any more awful or better than some of them.

mirialis · 01/02/2018 15:40

I agree - no more or less awful than others and as i've said, it's his deification that is putting my back up in the same way that the "harmless old granny" thing is annoying those who don't like Ann. I don't think Ann would endorse the harmless old granny tag particularly, whereas Shane J has gone in there on a mission and would be rewarded with his living canonisation.

But who knows - I don't know either of them personally.

I do think it speaks volumes about his behaviour within the group that everyone bar one HM nominated him on the back of it and I don't think there's much evidence to say that Shane L, Jess, Wayne or Ashley were bound to nominate Shane J over any of the other HM prior to that.

Craftylady28 · 01/02/2018 16:19

Yeah, fair dos, thats a good point re the living canonization thing - already so evident on twitter without him even winning CBB yet x

OnTheList · 01/02/2018 16:45

Altho I do have to admit that I zone out when they're giving their reasons for the noms, so I'm not completely sure of the reasons given.

The reasons were along the lines of..he is like a dog with a bone with Ann. From memory, they all mentioned the way he was with Ann, not 'I am less close with him' or whatever.

picklemepopcorn · 01/02/2018 16:49

When Shane was talking to other people about Ann, he wasn't try8ng to get another perspective or ask for advice on how to handle it, he was trying to persuade them she was trouble. When I have a problem with someone at work, I don't go to third fourth and fifth parties and tell them how awful that person is. I may say 'I'm really struggling with so and so, is it me? How do you deal with them?'

picklemepopcorn · 01/02/2018 17:50

Ann does well in that clip.

Craftylady28 · 01/02/2018 18:27

Ah thanks re the reasons for the noms.

And pickle yes, I totally agree re the way he was talking about Ann. It's actually really interesting this year how little full-on bitching there has been - it's usually all they do after a few days!

Craftylady28 · 01/02/2018 18:32

I wonder how the series would have played out if IW and Ann had had longer in each other's company. The clip shows clearly what Ann thinks of IW Grin

mirialis · 01/02/2018 18:37

Yes crafty - it's the angelic status Shane has acquired on twitter that has finished me off I think! They even have a picture of him as courtney with angel wings. Have had to resist signing up to twitter so I can comment - keeping it all for the MN PWB thread!

I just had to watch that IW v AW clip again - poor old IW, it really makes me chuckle. I watched it on you tube and someone had commented below about how CBB were setting up so people would attack Ann and she'd get the sympathy vote, and someone commented something along the lines of, LOL Ann always has an answer - she's not the one who needs sympathy!

toldmywrath · 01/02/2018 18:40

Something I noticed at the end of last night's CBB episode. When Ann was talking to the camera outside in the blankets area, she was softly spoken and almost coy. But when she spoke to Big Brother in the Diary Room, her harsh tone returned. I wonder what they had asked her?

FannyWisdom · 01/02/2018 19:04

I think Widdi is deluded enough to hope her monologues to garden camera have all been aired.
I bet she'll be pissed off when it's her nighties not narrative that's got more air time.

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