Celeb Big Brother Thread 11 - New product in the PWB shop! "Andrew's Guide to Treating Women with Respect"

[AnneEyhtMeyer]

I got them cheap. Ideal gift for Valentine's Day or Mother's Day.

En I'm completely with you I know we can't diagnose obviously, but the facial recognition and a few other things does paint a certain picture for me.

I didn't like Ann sat there preening. Pretending she doesn't give a fuck about what people think and she clearly does.

No she really doesn't. She also never preens.

The different perspectives are interesting- Shane J trying to be the voice of a community and Amanda being anti-label. Ann & Amanda's friendship doesn't involve discussion of personal beliefs.

Ann Widdecombe voted against Civil Partnerships. If she'd had her way, Amanda wouldn't have a wife.

Earlier on this thread or the last, someone said they couldn't be friends with people who have different views from them. I found that really strange, as my friends aren't all sheep, we have different cultures, different preferences and different views and ideas, but we all come together and enjoy each other's company regardless.

Amanda's a perfect example of live and let live and finding the good in people, whereas Shane J seems to burrow for the bad. Poor Shane.

Amanda for my win. Shane L runner up and Ann for third just for the mischief of it.

I'd love to know Amanda in real life. What a friend she is.

Bring has hit the nail on the head. The likes of Shane J have popped up and taken all of the congratulations but like Amanda said she’s seen and been friends with the originals who set things in motion and started the change and acceptance. Amanda 1 Shane 0.

If I was Amanda, I couldn't be pally with someone who vehemently hated fundamental aspects of my life. The thing is, Shane J is game played. But he very much accepts/identifies with his sexuality. Amanda doesn't appear to be so at ease. So she's less offended than Shane and doesn't get it.

Watching plus 1

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Thank you Anne All is well he wanted supper. Sat himself at the dining room table rubbing his tum.

God I loved Amanda for that! I have quite liked Shane and Courtney but he was irritating tonight.
With Amanda on your side, I cannot imagine how empowered you’d feel. I love her.
I prefer Ashley now she’s stop —genu—whining.

Ann Widdecombe voted against Civil Partnerships. If she'd had her way, Amanda wouldn't have a wife

True, but I also think she's happy enough to accept the majority vote and Amanda's so laid back if she couldn't have had a partnership she'd have just got on with living together, so I can see why these issues don't impact on their friendship.

Personally I don't believe in discriminating against anyone's legal rights, I'd be happy to explore legal contracts for partnerships replacing marriage if that's a move society saw a need for.

vehemently hated fundamental aspects of my Life

Ann has never said she hates anything, has she? She doesn’t agree with certain things, that doesn’t mean hatred.

Interesting you say Amanda doesn't seem as at ease to you Lonely. To me she comes across very confident and sure of herself she has spoken openly about her relationship but seems comfortable enough to not need to make it an issue.

Thinking about it, Ann accepted Dapper/Daniel for who he appeared to be, to her, in the house. She would have abhorred his show, and disagreed with much of what he says and stands for. But she took him at face value, and they formed a friendship. We know he made some crude jokes about her, but she could only go on what she saw and heard.

This is what I took Amanda to be saying. Whereas Shane J (and IW) have come in like single issue politicians. They cannot accept that somebody else doesn't share their views, but is still happy to befriend them and just get to know them.

Ann seemed to enjoy Wayne's letter from his husband. She was smiling and nodding she certainly isn't the witch that Shane is trying very hard to get other people to believe

he very much accepts/identifies with his sexuality. Amanda doesn't appear to be so at ease. So she's less offended than Shane and doesn't get it.

I'm not following?
How is Amanda not at ease with her sexuality? She's in a civil partnership with her female partner, tells everyone and doesn't care what anyone else thinks? Shane seems to need and advocate for everyone's acceptance and approval. Or at least it appears that way to me.

Interest point here though, Amanda has a civil partnership and not a marriage. I wonder why that is? Perhaps some form of legal contract is enough for them and they don't need another name on it.

Missed tonight’s episode so sorry if it’s off topic but I don’t really understand what the problem is with Ann’s views on gay marriage now? I’m sorry if it’s insensitive to say this but marriage equality has been won, why is Shane j (and pps on this thread) still fighting?

Does he expect Ann to change her mind or slip up and say something disgusting about gay people? Neither of those things are ever going to happen.

Looking forward to seeing what everyone is cheering Amanda for, as I already love her so much.

" he very much accepts/identifies with his sexuality. Amanda doesn't appear to be so at ease. So she's less offended than Shane and doesn't get it."

Really? A woman who married a woman late in life, when she was able to, lived in a ménage a trois and has discusssed it all on CBB, not at ease?

As for Ann, I'd long distance diagnose her too.

I really don't think Ann's views on the definition of marriage make her homophobic. I really struggle with people's accusations when her behaviour is entirely accepting. She doesn't like crude behaviour and PDAs. That is t the same as being homophobic or hateful!

I'd say Amanda is certainly more at ease about her sexuality than Shane! Shane is obsessive about it, it's his identity whereas amanda just gets on with it

Oops sorry, everyone's already said it.

I'm thinking back to the conversation where she said she hated the word lesbian. I liked her very much but tonight's episode I wasn't such a fan. I'm on the fence with Shane J.

lizzie you're right she hasn't outright said anything. I would infer that from her voting record and I find that telling. Amanda is obviously very easygoing, Shane J, not so much.

Wondering if Ann knows Waynes feelings about her.

Was expecting Wayne and Amanda to clash regards there feelings about Ann

bad I think Shane wants Ann to fall to her knees and beg forgiveness, from every gay person in the land.

He should realise that we live in a free society where people are allowed to have different opinions.