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"Gunpowder" - BBC

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LurkingHusband · 19/10/2017 16:30

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05j1bc9

Anyone looking forward ?

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HolyShmoly · 28/10/2017 21:32

Mind you, this was in an era where people still kept dead bodies at home until burial and you went to see them.

We still do that in our part of Ireland. Wake them at home and people come to see them and pay their respects. Some times (as is the older custom) people would take turns to stay up all night with them. Some keep the house private overnight and will sleep there, it's not unheard of to sleep in the same room as the coffin.

absolutely derailing your original point

VladsFlappyBat · 29/10/2017 06:41

Well it was definitely better this week. It looks like the latter scenes were actually filmed in the Tower too. How cool would that be as a job? Is it too late for a 40yr old woman to reconsider acting as a vocation? .

CCMcGarry · 30/10/2017 11:52

Absolutely loved it and some great acting from Kit... Too much gore... ? I don't think historical dramas should skimp and stick to their times.

BitOutOfPractice · 30/10/2017 12:47

I was thinking that the escape was a bit Hollywood but when I read up aboutthe priest, it seems it was actually quite tame compared to what happened. The priest lived to a ripe old age but he had been tortured under Elizabeth's reign and did indeed really escape from the Tower in even more dramatic fashion than was shown on the TV - across a rope across the moat!

Clawdy · 30/10/2017 22:42

That torture scene - couldn't watch. But quite enjoying the series. Have to say, Liv Tyler must hate that wig, it's so unflattering for her face.

NigellasStash · 02/11/2017 06:16

That’s really interesting Bit. There have been a few dramatic escapes from the Tower, have a book on it somewhere.

LadyinCement · 02/11/2017 14:42

There was a letter in the Telegraph from a descendent of the Tower Priest, and he said that the escape did indeed happen, but was seven years prior to Gunpowder Plot.

The ending for Catesby & Co was a bit Butch Cassidy, I thought. Nice bit of torture at the end, though, with the "heart of a traitor". Ewwwww.

RosyWelshcakes · 02/11/2017 16:55

and did indeed really escape from the Tower in even more dramatic fashion than was shown on the TV - across a rope across the moat!

Thats what we were taught at primary school way back in the late 60's

minesapintofwine · 03/11/2017 22:00

I'm joining this thread as I've now watched the first two episodes. I loved it. Great acting and very tense drama.
Yes it was gory but meh..it's needed for realism I think. It wasn't as gory as I was expecting from the news reports after watching too much sky atlantic anyway.

ChevalierTialys · 03/11/2017 22:04

Kit Harrington does if for me. He is worth watching for!

minesapintofwine · 03/11/2017 22:05

chev well, quite Grin

quirkychick · 04/11/2017 08:49

I've just watched the first two episodes too. I think I've watched a fair bit of gory stuff too (Got, Walking Dead...).

I think the initial scenes of torture/execution were to set the scene for the times in which they were in, Catholics faced this kind of persecution for merely practising their religion. They almost have nothing to lose by plotting. I assume the episode with the Spanish Inquisition was to show that it happened on both sides, although we had more footage of Catholics being tortured etc.

I thought it was well acted and tense, the scenes and costumes looked good. It's interesting to see from the plotters perspective and what drove them to it. They were certainly times of little religious tolerance and they persecutions of Protestants by Mary I would have been strong in the public's mind.

lucydogz · 04/11/2017 08:52

No, the Catholics faced persecution for plotting against the Crown.

ShoesHaveSouls · 04/11/2017 13:09

Catholics were persecuted just for practising their religion. They would be fined for not attending the 'right' church and so on.

Protestants were persecuted in the same way under Mary. Mary herself nearly didn't even get to the throne because of protestants plotting against her.

There were plots by both sides, depending on who was on the throne at the time - and both wanted 'their' religion on the throne, but plenty of people suffered the worst punishments just for practising their religion - both catholics and protestants.

quirkychick · 04/11/2017 14:41

Thank you Shoes I think you've said it more eloquently than me Smile. It was part of history where there was a great deal of conflict over who was on the throne, a Catholic or a Protestant. If you practised the "wrong" religion you were a heretic and suffered persecution.

IhaveChillyToes · 05/11/2017 10:29

IF you are in London

watch LONDON LIVE NOW

quirkychick · 05/11/2017 15:20

Sadly not in London...

IhaveChillyToes · 05/11/2017 15:37

Sorry for abrupt message

LONDON LIVE were showing a programme using the handwritten letters sent between all the people involved

Was very interesting

LurkingHusband · 05/11/2017 22:08

LONDON LIVE were showing a programme using the handwritten letters sent between all the people involved

Which, thanks to this documentary, I just learned were written with gall wasp ink ...

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quirkychick · 06/11/2017 06:48

Oh, I will have to look at that.

Ambonsai · 07/11/2017 13:32

I haven't got a clue what's going on

I can't restart because the gory bits made me sick
I'm about to give up

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