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Addicted Parents

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/07/2017 16:40

Did any one else see this?

Really amazing work being done with addicted parents ,seemed to have really positive outcomes too.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/07/2017 16:42

I shave to say I was pretty stunned they didn't have the power to stop Natalie A from leaving with her son after relapsing only 2 weeks before.

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Sidge · 19/07/2017 16:48

I watched it. I thought it was a fantastic place, the staff seemed to have the right balance of 'tough love' and sympathetic support.

I too was surprised that Natalie A could leave, and was sure she would quickly relapse - I was pleased to see that she apparently hadn't.

Looking forward to part 2 next week.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/07/2017 16:50

I've never been so relieved! Didn't realise there was another part , excellent!

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TheFirstMrsDV · 19/07/2017 16:57

I am not optimistic for N's recovery
She initially presented as the most sympathetic of the cohort.
But her reaction to her relapse was quite telling. Loads of justification, minimising and bringing her teenager into it.

I hope I am wrong. Her boy is lovely and desperate for her to stay well.

Twitter was interesting. It was almost 50/50 split between idiots calling for sterilization, calling them whores, saying they can be shot etc
and people praising the work and being really understanding of the issues.

I wish them all well.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/07/2017 17:00

Personally I think she needed to hear how disappointed people were. I really hope she continues to be ok. Her children are lovely.

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FuckyDuck · 19/07/2017 17:09

Absolutely heartbreaking that so so many children are exposed to this. I appreciate that it's now viewed as an illness but it's a choice, I don't understand how anyone can choose to take drugs over parenting their kids Sad

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/07/2017 17:13

It's not a choice,that's the whole point of addiction, it ceases to become a choice. When someone is clean THEN it becomes a choice and it's about needing support to make the right choices.

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Lovelongweekends · 19/07/2017 17:14

When/what channel was this on please?

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/07/2017 17:15

I don't want this to become a Natalie bashing thread but I can't get my head around how taking drugs in front of your child in a public loo isn't putting them in danger. I really hope there is a good social worker in place. She even said on the phone "you can't stop me leaving and you can't take Sonny away as I haven't put him in danger" But she had Grin

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AllTheWittyNamesAreGone · 19/07/2017 17:16

It was on bbc2 at 9 last night

I really felt for the older kids. They tackled about its with such grace and understanding

ExtraPineappleExtraHam · 19/07/2017 17:16

Interesting how many of them had suffered sexual abuse, I can't help but think back to those girls from Rochdale and other places and wonder if this will be their fate Sad

Decsbetterhalf · 19/07/2017 17:19

It's not a choice,that's the whole point of addiction, it ceases to become a choice. When someone is clean THEN it becomes a choice and it's about needing support to make the right choices.

Superbly put!!! 👍🏼👍🏼

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/07/2017 17:24

Sorry that should have been Confused not Grin

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/07/2017 17:26

I would be interested to know stats on what percentage of addicts have suffered abuse,I imagine a huge number.

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Chottie · 19/07/2017 17:28

I really felt for the older children too. They all seemed so mature beyond their years. I just wondered if they had had a childhood......

pawpatrolfan · 19/07/2017 17:33

Go on YouTube and find 'intervention' there's 16 series

Charts US and Canadian addicts situations one per programme and so so many have suffered sexual abuse and all have had some kind of trauma

The programme intervenes and they mostly recover

Can find update info on the website 'intervention directory'

I was completely amazed that so many child sex abuse victims become addicts. It seems very likely from this show ! Awful life for some

Sidge · 19/07/2017 17:50

Yes I found her response quite interesting - "you have no right to be disappointed by my behaviour". Deflecting her anger, and her refusal to accept that her behaviour affects others.

I really felt for her older lad, he seemed so lovely and so desperate for her to stay clean. Of course he wasn't going to tell her he was cross, and that he was disappointed by her, but she interpreted that as his condoning her relapse, like it was just a blip.

I really felt for all the women, such traumatic lives that had led them to making such bad choices.

PinkHeart5911 · 19/07/2017 18:19

I have just sat and watched this. I thought the staff had a good balance of being caring but at the same time not being push overs! The children I feel for it's such a life for a young child to have.

My parents adopted my sister, she was removed from her birth mother as she was an addict and neglected her. My sister did track her birth monther down last year and nothing had changed, she has just spend her whole life getting clean and going back to drugs my sister says she won't be seeing her again.

newdaylight · 19/07/2017 21:51

I have to say I was pretty stunned they didn't have the power to stop Natalie A from leaving with her son after relapsing only 2 weeks before
Crikey...what power would you expect them to have. She chose to go into rehab, she can choose to go out.

Not saying it was a good decision or anything, but she can't be imprisoned!

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/07/2017 22:39

No,I meant the power to let her leave with her son. I know it isn't a prison.

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newdaylight · 20/07/2017 01:00

But they don't have parental responsibility for her son and she does. I'm assuming you're wondering why social services didn't have more power...?

Firstly they could only take her son into care if it was with her consent which she would certainly not have given, and rightly so, our with the order if the courticaria. The court wouldn't grant an emergency order as she was perfectly capable of caring for the child at the point she left. She was not under the influence. They would not have granted an interim care order as it wouldn't have net threshold for that either unless she continued using after leaving and it impacted on the children.

I suspect you must greatly overestimate the power of social services (perhaps due to how they're sometimes portrayed in the media).

Finally, even if they did have all that power (which would = a very scary society) social services would have wanted to see her engage in community support to maintain her recovery so she could be as good a mum as possible to her kids... rather than remove them before seeing if it worked.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 20/07/2017 01:05

I suspect you must greatly overestimate the power of social services (perhaps due to how they're sometimes portrayed in the media)

No I don't,but I have seen children taken away from parents after 6 week parenting courses when drugs were sometimes involved.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 20/07/2017 01:06

I do know they do everything in their power to keep mother and child together.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 20/07/2017 01:08

** not parenting courses,parenting assessments

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SerfTerf · 20/07/2017 01:14

For some reason the eldest son of one Natalie and the father of the other Natalie were what really got to me. Just the patient, steadfast, unconditional love. The way that lovely teen boy took on responsibility for his tiny brother. Heartbreaking Sad

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