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Lord Lucan My Husband The Truth

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SuperFlyHigh · 05/06/2017 21:31

Anyone watching this?!

Bloody strange woman, bloody strange man, explains a lot!

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 17:41

It's telling me that isn't a safe site when I clicked on that Confused

SuperFlyHigh · 06/06/2017 17:42

Oh it was fine yesterday dame Confused

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SuperFlyHigh · 06/06/2017 17:43

If you ignore the warning dame it clicks through, same one as yesterday.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 18:01

I googled it instead and it was fine. Bit rambly,isn't it?

NinonDeLenclos · 06/06/2017 18:42

Between the lines it seems to me that the reason she's estranged from her children is that they cannot accept that Lucan killed Sandra Rivett. I think they're in denial.

The son said that he believed that his father was not the 'prime mover' in the incident and that he disagreed with his mother's version. Which, given that he was asleep upstairs and woken by a policeman once his mother had escaped (by his own account) is a bit odd.

One of the two daughters said that there was 'no evidence' Lucan was a 'murderer' and that the evidence was 'circumstantial'.

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 06/06/2017 19:07

I wonder whose blood splatters were in the car lord L had borrowed and left in Newhaven. Pretty sure forensics weren't able to analyse the source/s as well as today?

NinonDeLenclos · 06/06/2017 19:24

I'd put money on the blood spatter being Rivett's.

People want this story to be more complicated than it is: abusive man tried to kill his wife, killed the nanny instead and then did a runner.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 19:49

Yes,he must've been covered in it.

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 06/06/2017 20:05

I don't want it to be more complicated than it is, it's just that the case in some sense 'has it all' (sorry if that sounds disrespectful); the beautiful (and oh-so-odd) people, the innocent children, the vanishing perpetrator, the tragic aftermath.

AntiopeofThemyscira · 06/06/2017 22:27

I was gripped by this. I was thinking about it today and how she said all her relationships are cold and she has no close relationships with anyone. My ex - also a professional gambler Hmm - did a bloody good job of turning pretty much everyone we knew against me. I'm very assertive though - belligerent he used to call it - and I made sure the truth came out every chance I got. I can see how a less vocal, highly anxious, mentally ill person could be painted as the villain by an abusive man who everyone else thought was utterly charming and wonderful. The upper classes are a small community really, a mentally ill woman back in those times would struggle hugely. I feel sorry for her and I think she has carried all the baggage for what he did.

HelenaDove · 06/06/2017 22:49

I watched this last night but missed some so am going to rewatch it now (its being repeated on ITV1)

Maybe the coldness is her shutting down emotionally to protect herself mentally.
If HER relations defended HIM i can just imagine what her childhood must have been like.

HelenaDove · 06/06/2017 23:00

I HATE that expression "on the shelf" And old at 26? Thank God its different now.

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 06/06/2017 23:03

At least it seems she's had a nice gentleman friend in her life since, and they are still friends (but no longer sexually, thanks DM).

HelenaDove · 06/06/2017 23:05

Shes an attractive woman.........both now and then.

WallisofWindsor · 07/06/2017 00:04

I thought the woman has timeless elegance. Very dignified.

Lizzzar · 07/06/2017 14:28

I think Princess of Wales's mother married a Shand-Kydd as her second husband whose half brother was married to Lady Lucan's sister. These Shand-Kydds eventually raised the children after Lady Lucan had a breakdown of some kind; apparently on the children's request. It all seems very sad that they virtually never saw their mother after that. She admits that she was suffering from stress and depression, not very surprisingly, but there certainly seems to be no convincing evidence that she was ever psychotic, and the medical treatment she received could have been better.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 07/06/2017 14:35

MH treatment even for bog standard depression in the 70's was dire according to my mother.

Lizzzar · 07/06/2017 14:39

It was Lady Lucan's younger daughter, Camilla Bingham, now a QC, who apparently said the evidence was "circumstantial" (although I admit I think I read that in the Daily Mail). But I'd say it's still very strong against Lord Lucan, although I suppose that there is a small possibility that the actual murder of Sandra Rivett was committed by a hitman hired by Lord Lucan with the intention to kill Lady Lucan.

NinonDeLenclos · 07/06/2017 18:56

Camilla Bingham, that's right.

There would be the possibility it wasn't him if he hadn't also attacked Lady Lucan and told her Sandra was dead. He had the weapon in his hand ready to whack LL. Lady Lucan has never said there was anyone else in the house other than the children. So the hitman got in and out without anyone seeing, after killing the wrong person, leaving Lord L with the weapon?

Lady Lucan says it wasn't true that she had a breakdown, but her son chose to live with the Shand-Kydds as a teenager. I guess they could provide a more normal family life than a slightly odd, possibly still traumatised, famous attempted murder victim.

7461Mary18 · 14/06/2017 15:54

I just watched it. It is very well and nicely done.

It is absolutely classic for rich men to allege their wives are mad to get their way. Once you are on psychiatric drugs (and they were pretty strong in the 70s - my psychatrist father prescribed them) it is hard to get off them.

I blame Lord Lucan for most of this.

Lady Lucan is perfectly normal for her generation and class. The fact the children were bonded with their nanny is not unusual although not something that happens today.

The saddest bit of all is that ultimately she lost custody as her son etc chose to live with her sister and family 7 years after the murder. I suppose the youngest child was about 10 by then. Their formative years were before then.

I think it's rather cruel of the children not to include this old lady in their lives even if just to invite her to weddings and perhaps a Christmas meal. There is no need for the long estrangement even if they don't know or like each other.

She came over as very articulate and sensible and to me it is a classic case of abusive husband. We see it all the time over all classes and all kinds of people and all over the world.

ElspethFlashman · 14/06/2017 16:00

But the son did invite her out to lunch. It was at a hotel and she refused cos she got the hump it was in a hotel rather than his home. But if you're NC with your mother you're going to pick a neutral venue aren't you? And she turned him down flat.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 14/06/2017 16:04

After seeing the interview,I can actually imagine that!

Inkanta · 14/06/2017 17:44

I was gripped and felt sorry for her. At the same time I was disappointed she had not sustained a relationship with her children. I get the impression she was detached and remote from them before her troubles began. She said she didn't miss them on holidays. I get the impression that her kids were happy to live permanently with relatives. Would love to know their side of the story.

He on the other hand was a despicable and destructive man. Liked the way she was able to get away from him and call for help ...

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 27/09/2017 01:00

She was found dead yesterday. Sad

SussexBonfireViking · 27/09/2017 21:22

We drove down Norman road newhaven today where his car was found

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