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Lord Lucan My Husband The Truth

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SuperFlyHigh · 05/06/2017 21:31

Anyone watching this?!

Bloody strange woman, bloody strange man, explains a lot!

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bumblebee61 · 06/06/2017 07:25

I watched it. Fascinating. I too felt there was a lot unsaid. I was struck by the fact she seemed to view the previous nanny as an enemy. People didn't like them at the wedding, the nanny previously didn't like her... i wonder why? She looks like she isn't there in the photos of her as a younger woman. Something seriously amiss. I wondered whether Lucan married her because she was as emotionally absent as himself. What a very odd couple and i wonder what story the children would tell? How could you live with that legacy as a child? To have endured that marriage and then your three children want nothing to do with you . What a very sad life, but she seems emotionally dead.

VanillaSugar · 06/06/2017 07:30

Maybe she was always fragile and Lucan saw someone attractive whi he could manipulate. If someone tells you you're useless day in, day out, you get to believe it.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 07:49

I don't think she disliked the nannies- she was just realistic about their role and when someone looks after your child day in and day out and even takes them on holiday there won't be the closeness that we take for granted.

southeastdweller · 06/06/2017 09:06

The home movie footage was fascinating, wasn't it? Don't think this has ever been seen before on TV. I was surprised how articulate and well-presented she was - I was expecting some befuddled 'Miss Havisham' type.

I do think some posters here have been harsh. 'Odd' seems such a glib word to describe her, a bit cold sure, but she came across as a very damaged and sad lady. She didn't say she disliked her eldest daughter, btw, all she said was that the nanny before SR damaged the relationship with her and Frances and the nanny used Frances against her. A lot was left unexplained but then it was only an hour programme and I wonder if she can't divulge certain things because of court rulings in relation to her children?

Such a sad story on several levels.

TeaStory · 06/06/2017 09:30

I think it's very telling that her son stated in 2016 that his family "didn't know who killed Sandra Rivett". I wonder if some of the non-contact is because the children genuinely believe their mother is unjustly accusing their father.

Although it's pretty clear he did it, IMO!

A very interesting programme, I felt so sad for her.

teaandakitkat · 06/06/2017 09:35

I find the attitudes of her whole set 'odd'. Their attitudes to life, love, choosing a husband or wife, children, the way she referred to needing to have a boy baby, all of it. It's so removed from my life experience. It's strange and fascinating and depressing all at the same time. But I'm sure she would find my life equally odd.

I didn't feel like last night's programme really was the truth about Lord Lucan. It would have been better titled Lady Lucan: My Life or something, because it really was about her. It was interesting all the same though, such a strange and sad episode in history for everyone involved, especially the family of Sandra Rivett.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 10:14

Am I right in thinking it's a bit sketchy as to wether she actually saw it was her husband who bashed her over the head? It's years since I read about the case so am hazy about the details now. I was under the impression she wasn't sure it was him and now she's saying it definitely was.

The bit where she suddenly realised about the pipe being covered in bandages just like the cane send a bit well rehearsed imo. So after all these years that was the first time she realised?Confused

SerfTerf · 06/06/2017 10:19

I think at the point he bashed her she wasn't sure, but once he spoke (then helped her upstairs and so on) she knew. They had a whole conversation in the aftermath.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 10:23

Ah right,thanks.

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 06/06/2017 10:36

It was fascinating wasn't it? I quite liked her but she's a strange one for sure.
Two questions:

  1. How can she have such fab skin at her age considering all the sunbathing & fags? and on a serious note
  2. She stressed Sandra was a Mrs but told lord Lucan after the attack that 'Sandra has no friends, nobody will miss her'. Surely Sandra's husband would have missed her? Or perhaps lord Lucan simply didn't know Sandra was married.
SerfTerf · 06/06/2017 10:38

Yes it was a recent hiring so he wouldn't have known Sandra.

southeastdweller · 06/06/2017 10:45

She was lying, I think, to Lucan about Sandra, to placate him, so she herself wouldn't get attacked further.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 10:46

She explained why she said that no one would miss her.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 10:48

Yes,she was trying to placate him.

I thought she was very respectful to Sandra.

Her skin was amazing!!Grin

SerfTerf · 06/06/2017 10:53

Maybe immense stress is good for the complexion?

Lord Lucan My Husband The Truth
VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 06/06/2017 11:02

I guess I just assumed lord L would have known if Sandra was married or not (I believe she had been with the kids for 9 weeks at the time?), also he lived in their mews house very close to the main property during the separation so I just thought he would have been more familiar with arrangements.

Have just read the recent DM interview with Veronica (sorry! Blush ) and it became clearer to me that she has chosen to stay disconnected from her children in order to protect them from publicity really. Can't for the life of me understand why she still keeps a portrait of him though.

Lanaorana2 · 06/06/2017 11:17

What strikes me is that Lady L was very barmy but she was also very abused. How unreliable is she, really, is what I want to know.

In the 60s and 70s the dope they gave people with depression was very full-on, and that as much as anything would have made her an unreliable witness.

Lady L was repeatedly undermined by her husband who toured Chelsea' various private doctors begging them to section her - ie he could get the house and the money. In the end, though, even the private docs, who were part of his friendship circle, refused and warned her.

Lady L was treated at the Priory, which is well known in rarified circles as being fucking useless. I have a friend whose dad was in there after he was beaten up/head injury at the same time as Lady L - he stayed 3 years, smacked out of what remained of his skull, and only got better when they let him out.

Regardless, she might be nuts, but she's not stupid and she doesn't sound like a liar. The motive she gave Lord L - that killing her meant he saved money - makes perfect, indeed the only, sense. What she said about her DH freaking when he saw she'd fled makes sense of the rest of his flight.

What gets me most is the way her relations defended him. No wonder she was peculiar and went for abusers.

She is a bad mother. In her defence, the upper classes aren't great at that, and she was very, very frightened and ill. She has a chilling coldness, even now, but she's lived a bloody odd life. The children were definitely better off without her, and I'm not afraid to say under the circs there's no shame in that.

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LouiseBrooks · 06/06/2017 12:17

Surely Sandra's husband would have missed her? Or perhaps lord Lucan simply didn't know Sandra was married.

She was divorced or separated and their child lived with her parents, which the Lucans may not have known about. I'm not sure how much contact she actually had with her parents. She also had another child who had been adopted as a baby.

WellThisIsShit · 06/06/2017 14:13

Found the website mentioned earlier.

I feel very sorry for Lady Lucan, I'm not sure what happened but it is clear that this lady has suffered greatly.

Her anger st her now grown up children is there in her writing. She has contempt for any breach of protocol. Even in the 70s she seemed to be a relic of another age. Trapped by her strong beliefs in protocol.

So sad for all concerned.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 14:34

What website was that please?

MacarenaFerreiro · 06/06/2017 14:47

She's a very unhappy and lovely woman I think. I don't think we can condemn her (or him) for gadding off and leaving the kids with the nanny, that was very much the done thing at that time in that social class. Drugs were clearly a factor, and gambling. In the clip of hte 1980s interview which they played towards the end she was clearly out of it.

Dysfunctional doesn't start to describe her relationship with her children though.

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 06/06/2017 17:23

Thanks LouiseBrooks now I understand better.

SuperFlyHigh · 06/06/2017 17:29

www.ladylucan.co.uk -dame

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 06/06/2017 17:40

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