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Peter Capaldi leaving Doctor Who

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TyneTeas · 30/01/2017 22:22

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38805151

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Badcat666 · 04/02/2017 12:31

The reason I don't want the next Doctor to be a woman is basically because I'm a Doctor Who nerd who got into reading Doctor Who books when I met Mr BC.

In the books each House of Gallifrey was given a Loom machine which produced the children as natural births were considered beneath them.

tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Loom

The loom machine "fixed" the sex of each child produced and only permitted a certain number to be "born" to each House at any given time.

Also there are many women Timelords from the cannon books/ audios they could introduce to the series if they so wish.

I was pretty pissed off when they introduced Missy as The Master as it was to me an easy cop out. Like she couldn't just be an evil twisted female Time Lord in her own right.

I'm hoping it will be an older male Doctor, don't care what colour skin he will have.

And Harriet Harmon can go sit on one for saying that the next Doctor should be a woman and have a male assistant “She has got to just tell him what to do, he will need that leadership.” She's just being a sexist bint.

She has missed the bloody point about what it is to be an assistant to the Doctor. It's about keeping the Timelord sane, grounded and make him a better "person", not about telling someone what to do just because they are of another sex! To a Timelord we are not male/ female, just humans (it was only RTD who tried to romance it all up).

HelenDenver · 04/02/2017 12:36

I do agree that was a bollocks comment from harman

Riversleep · 04/02/2017 17:16

badcat at risk of outing myself as a poor Doctor Who nerd, are the books cannon? I haven't read the books, but I thought the telly was primary source and the loom story was rebutted by the movie where 8 said he was half human and the tv where loads of timelords have changed sex. I got the impression the books were a separate entity, otherwise it would be impossible to write the TV.

Badcat666 · 04/02/2017 17:37

Hiya river I think the half human half Timelord idea was only introduced in the Movie to make Doctor Who more "palatable" for the American audience (as the American backers didn't like the idea he as an "alien"). It has been hinted in some books as he made a joke or when he was in the morgue in the film his DNA got screwed up.

I think Timelords changing sex is only a recent thing introduced by the new writers rather than something that happened in the older series. They just had Time Ladies rather than them changing sex all the time.

They can "morph" into different species when they undergo regeneration (again I think hinted in some of the books but can't remember as my brain is old and worn out these days) .

I think the audios are now considered cannon but not sure about the books, will have to ask Mr BC when he comes in! (but in my head as I read about the loom machines years ago I can't wrap my head around them now jumping sex!) (not having sex and jumping whilst having sex that is!!)

HelenDenver · 04/02/2017 17:43

Books are not canon. I doubt books are internally consistent with each other, in some cases.

Big Finish is now arguably canon after the name check of the BF companions in The Night of the Doctor. I doubt they will draw further on the stories, though.

Riversleep · 04/02/2017 17:46

If you scroll down on the article you linked to, it says Steven Moffat said the books are a separate but equally different cannon to the tv. I agree the half human thing is nonsense but now we have had references to the Doctor as a child, I don't think the loom thing is part of the TV.I find that quite a sad concept, that they are just born adults with no children. Also, how would Susan be the Doctors granddaughter? If she's just a random girl, he's a dirty old man who's run off with a young girl.

Riversleep · 04/02/2017 17:48

I do agree Id prefer the Doctor to stay male. I don't see a problem with it. I wouldn't mind him travelling with a female timelord again or an alien companion

Riversleep · 04/02/2017 17:52

Yes anyone seen the Lego Berman movie? The Daleks are in it😀 I was wondering whether that would mean Batman and Doctor Who exist in the same Universe, then I attempted to get a grip on myself, then now I've spent all my time on here talking about Doctor Who Cannon!

Badcat666 · 04/02/2017 17:57

me too River , would so love it if he travelled with an alien again!! and I really wish they would bring a female Timelord into the mix rather than just use the Master over and over again.

Re the Grandaughter, this link might help River. I've always thought they weren't blood relatives, it was just a named she called him.

tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Susan_Foreman

HelenDenver · 04/02/2017 18:57

"he's a dirty old man who's run off with a young girl."

Given that was the youngest he'd ever been on screen, that's pretty much his modus operandi, no?!

Riversleep · 04/02/2017 19:32

Yeah true you got me there although Susan was the equivalent of a 15 year old whereas the other companions were at least women. I think he was her grandfather and he had a family who were killed in the time war. And he shagged River in the Tardis

WhereYouLeftIt · 04/02/2017 20:38

David Tennant's Doctor, in the episode The Doctor's Daughter, told Donna when she was ribbing him about being a dad now, that he'd been a dad before. So I reckon Susan was indeed his granddaughter.

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