EASTENDERS GOSSIPERS

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Yet another new thread

Guess the big story coming up is the return of grant

Any other loose ends ?

Speaking of character ages, It suprises me that Masood is 54, becuase Nitin Ganatra is 49.
Normally they shave a few years off the actors rather than put a few on.

I have seen the spoiler and urgh . The actress who plays zaineb is only about 45 so she must have been playing older too.

I think linzi/star should be blamed as she knows her age. His her age from jay and think she lied a sure she must have said her age /lied about it and jay not just assumed she was 17/18

Could he not have a relationship with her but no sex? Or is this 6yrs+ too much

Hid

"I'm not sure I'm keen on how they're doing the storyline, portraying Linzi as in the wrong. Just looking at recent headlines, I have seen people trying to defend the likes of Adam Johnson by blaming the young lass for seducing him."

I'm in agreement here - i 'm actually quite annoyed with Eastenders here, theres no way Jay knew she was under age, and she looks older and acts older... Ok maybe he asked her where she spent her days or what she did - from what we could see, she 'fooled' him. So they will be going down the 'poor Jay he its not his fault" route

I don't see Linzi to blame at all. She's a child and Jay, as the adult, should have found out how old she was, as anyone would do when you're dating someone.

I'm not one to ever blame a victim (which Linzi actually isnt) but I do think she has been deceptive. She knew full well she is underage and got toget her with Jay anyway. She is also quite evasive about where she goes and what she does. Ok Jay should have asked her how old she was but as she looks older (not surprising given she is 18 in RL) it probably didn't occur to him that she wasn't older.

It cannot be compared to the Adam Johnson case where he was fully aware of how old she was and was grooming her. Jay hasn't groomed Linzi at all. I have a feeling he isn't going to come out well from this. I can't see EE going down the route of Linzi being blamed.

As I said it's different to the Johnson case, I meant more the attitudes surrounding the issue. I still think that as the adult, it was Jay's responsibility to know more about her, including her age. I don't think a 14 year old can be blamed as they don't have the maturity to make those decisions.

There was a scene at the house where Linzi was saying to Jay, Abi & Ben that she was going partying in Ibiza in the summer. A lie but one that would make you think she was older.

"I don't see Linzi to blame at all. She's a child and Jay, as the adult, should have found out how old she was, as anyone would do when you're dating someone."

How? She'd obviously been lying to him about her name and lots of other stuff. Was he to ask for her birth certificate?

He did admit he didn't think to ask where she went everyday. So I do think he could've done more to find out about her. I'm not saying it's deliberate on Jay's part but I just don't think a child can be blamed for their actions in situations like this, and I'm hoping that's not the direction they're going in.

That's it Magpie, it's not about asking for her birth certificate (!) but he'd have a good idea about how old she was if he asked what she did all day, or met her friends, as you'd do whilst dating for two months. The police won't be interested in lame excuses like 'She looked older' and 'She lied about her name so she's not an honest person'.

True Magpie but then she could've lied about what she did all day as it's still early days. Doubt any lies would last much longer but certainly in the first few weeks/months. In her defence she probably wanted to be treated like an adult and just chatted to Jay and things developed then she was left with either 'easing up or continuing the fabrication. f

That was supposed to be 'fessing!

southwastdweller I wasn't being serious about the birth certificate. If you look at the thread you'll see it was me who first raised the fact that I wasn't comfortable with the way this storyline was going.

"I do think it's weird though how young girls are being portrayed on EE - ok I know the boys aren't any better but still. First Abi lies and tricks Ben, is humiliated in public, goes into hiding, everyone blames her while (cheating) Ben gets off scott-free and everyone is "awwww" at how in love he is now and can be his "true self". Then we have Jay being lied to and tricked by another young girl."

I was just trying to initiate a debate. What should a 21 year old boy do when he meets a girl he likes and she isn't being truthful about her age? What should young girls do if they find themselves falling for someone older? etc etc.

As a mum of young DD I avoided reading too much about the Johnson case because it all looked so upsetting. I know that's different because the footballer clearly knew she was underage. However, I think EE could have handled this storyline better and helped to educate both boys and girls - but I think getting Linzi to le/not be honest has taken it in a different direction. Maybe they did it intentionally so that it's different to the Whitney storyline in which her stepdad clearly knew what age she was.

I think EE want to do storylines that get people talking, and they've certainly achieved that!

Didn't linzi say she worked in a shop?

Agree it's not like someone who ask are you under 16 when dating

I assume linzi said she was older

Tho Louise is to blame as well as she knew how old she was and said nothing

Linzi never mentioned anything about what she did all day.

Linzi is a child and Jay is an adult. It doesn't matter what pics and videos she sent him or that she lied about a couple of things - it was his responsibility to find out more about her. It's not like they were dating for a few days.

Louise didn't know until she turned she the first day of school and that's why the ended up fighting.

I'm sure, had Jay been aware of her age & his responsibilities towards her, he would've acted accordingly. He thought they were equals & therefore didn't think he had any responsibilities. She was deliberately vague, that was part of her charm. Are all under 30s supposed to do background checks on someone they're just getting to know, just in case they're lying about their age?!

The only person who has any responsibility towards Star in this scenario is her mother. It's her job to keep Star safe & be aware of where she is what she's doing. I do also think that we have an age of criminal responsibility in this country for a reason - above that age people are deemed to be capable of making decisions about right & wrong. Star knew misleading Jay was wrong, if not technically illegal. If their relationship continues past this point then Jay will be the one in the wrong but I can't see he's done anything wrong up to now other than be respectful of her her privacy.

It doesn't matter that she misled him, he's the adult and she's the child.

Louise Didnt know linzi until she met her at school which we said was going to happen I hate the story personally but there are teens who will lie about their age to date older people if Jay knew he wouldnt have gone near her and why did Jay tell Louise not to say anything is beyond me. They are potraying the young girls as man trapping trollops atm im not liking it.

The thing is ... why is Jay making it a secret, surely telling sharron what happned woudl be the correct thing?

That is what is irritating Jay is going to keep it a secret makes it worse for him and the mum is going to find out blah blah

Think jay is embarrassed hence why not saying anything

But by not saying anything he is making it worse for his self

Linzi is not innocent in this. If she was then she would have said to jay I'm
14/15 and go to school