Hinterland one-off

[OnlyLovers]

I've just found out that there was a one-off feature-length episode of this. I'm not sure if it aired on UK-wide TV or just BBC Wales.

Does anyone know a) where I can get it (it's not on iPlayer) and b) if I need to have watched it to make sense of the second series?

Have pm'd you, Tannhauser.

diddl Would you pm me as well, please. I thought we are the only people watching Hinterland in England. Even looked up.title in Welsh, so we would not miss it.

Have done, ginger.

Thank you so much, diddl!

I also wish they had promoted it more. So many people are missing out.

Yes second series is on BBC Wales at present in English , which is what I and others are watching on I Player.I don't know when it 'aired' in Wales

The Welsh title means 'Dusk'
Could someone pm me what happened to his daughter ?
I spent a post grad year in Aberystwyth 1972-3 I went back about 5 years ago and apart from Llanbadarn merging with the main town it didnt seem to have changed much
There are clever touches-in series one a picture of Jenny Jones on someone's wall, someone wearing a Welsh Tapestry coat.Someone knows their stuff.

post it's a very atmospheric place, isn't it? I went to Uni there too and it hasn't changed much. Glad there's a McDs there now!

I like the touches too. It's also very bleak in a picturesque sort of way. It's a beautiful part of Wales, but kind of grim too. Especially the around Borth. Creepy but pretty!.

A McDs!!!!! I'm shocked, I haven't been back for ages. The 'hotel' the wife stays in is actually a cafe called 'Consti' at the top of, well, Consti!

I think it's very realistic when they slip in & out of Welsh; it was very telling in the story when the farmers were hunting down the boy (S2 E2) and circled Matthias who was talking to them in English but they only accepted the authority of Mared who spoke to them in Welsh.

Yes its very beautiful but in a very haunting Celtic way ..
Its oddly remote as there isn't really an easy way to get there by road , though I think the train service is better now . I never managed to get home (North Wales coast) the whole 9 months I was there .

Just realised why Consti is called Consti. D"oh.

The train service used to be awful, and the bus not much better. It used to take about 5 hours to Cardiff, stopping everywhere.

Maybe its remoteness is part of its appeal. For my friends in other parts of Wales, Aber was positively metropolitan though.

Thank you diddl.

Yes, I remember for friends in the rural villages, Aber had a reputation as "Sin City" ha ha!
Have to confess I was sad enough to buy the DVD of the first series, watched it all in Welsh with subtitles and watched the bilingual version. Despite shooting each scene twice, the change in language really makes a difference, the Welsh version works better in my view (especially the first episode) - and would definitely work in BBC 4's Scandi noir slot. Interestingly, the other male detective comes across as more confident when everyone speaks Welsh and more diffident in the bilingual version when he has to use English - again, that rings true with what I remember of the first language Welsh students I knew. My Welsh is really rusty but some of the translations in the first episode sounded a bit clunky in English and possibly should have just been rewritten. I think it settled down after that!
The bilingual version is great for emphasizing that Matthias is the outsider but when he speaks Welsh it gives more of a sense of him trying to fit in - he's a South Walian who speaks some Welsh but not as his first language. He definitely sounds like a second-language speaker so he's still an outsider to an extent but one who has been exiled in London and has now returned home to try to find some kind of escape from his past. Does that make sense? I am possibly too keen on this series!

Oh, and just to add I thought the scene with the farmers where Mared had to intervene and put them straight in Welsh was good, too!

loose I agree with everything you've said there! Matthias reminds me of people who've grown up with Welsh as a second language who are fluent but then either leave Wales or don't use their Welsh for ages. They return to Wales and perhaps have lost confidence and vocabulary. They then try to fit back into a Welsh-speaking environment and somehow stand out.

Also, I notice people from South East Wales (where the actor is from) tend to speak Welsh in a certain way, which marks them out from Welsh speakers (such as Mared and the others) from other parts of Wales.

You can also tell that the other male detective is less confident in English. Not necessarily less fluent, but he comes across differently when speaking it.

Thank you absolutely! You put it really well! I'm looking forward to catching the next episode on Iplayer but there are so many subtle details that I will try to watch more than once (and hopefully the standalone and series 2 will make it to DVD at some point.)

Just discovered this on Netflix. It's superb. Great acting, plenty of atmosphere.