Dr Foster, the final episode, can't wait..

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First thread nearly full so starting this one for tomorrow night

Clawdy, i didnt notice the car either.!
Odd thing is i have known , or heard of, more women having affairs and leaving their husbands for their 'first loves' in the last 20 years or so. They have, mostly, come off better than the husbands. Not being judgey, nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors or why people cheat. Not all men behave like Simon or the accountant, not all women would do what Gemma did. Would be nice to have a drama from a 'wronged man ' point of view'? I know i may be flamed here, but its just an observation from people ive known in RL.

He smashed her face into the window after he knew Tom was fine though, so I don't think they can really use the 'I thought my son was dead' bit to defend him hitting her.

I thought she left the practice in the scene with Ros when Ros persuaded her to take her medical bag, although I didn't get why she'd even contemplate leaving her bag as she's not going to have enough money to retire and will need to work again.

The80s
Would be nice to have a drama from a 'wronged man ' point of view'? I know i may be flamed here, but its just an observation from people ive known in RL.

I agree. I know a couple where the man was the wronged one big time. Wife verbally and emotionally abused the man, verging on physical too - not hearsay but seen by me and others.... embarrassing and awful to see. Poor bloke. And thank god she has now moved away, I couldn't bear to listen to her made up vitriol against him anymore. it would make a good TV drama believe me!

crumbly- I think it would be hard to argue that point in court because it was seconds between her pretending their son was dead and then not- so his emotions were all over the place. They were each as bad as the other.
I think she came over a pathetic for wanting to hold onto a man who clearly didn't want her, and for not having any idea of their finances despite being an educated professional woman in the 21stC.

But I don't think that Simon did destroy everything, or lose everything, in the end. We already know that he wanted the OW and the baby, he chose her after the dinner party. We know he was looking down the barrel of bankruptcy, which he managed to avoid with Gemma's help. They really did manage to salvage the best possible outcome for them both.

The price Gemma paid for her "win" was the assault. The price Simon paid for his "win" was a police record. Then they both walked off into their new lives. That is what I mean by colluding for the best outcome.

Rousette, thanks for that! If a decent drama writer wrote that script i have a feeling it would be a winner somehow. Just because it would show a different perspective. Men are victims too, its just not spoken about as much.
( am not male either!)

Who was the lady Ros brought into the room at the surgery, that made Gemma go and get Tom from school?
The dinner party was excellent & when Gemma came down the stairs at the Parks house after blackmailing the dad.
Raging at Simon never apologising & excusing his behaviour by saying all men do it& it happens all the time
Also Tom hating on his mum so much for being a working mum
Ultimately I didn't like any of them though, the writers should have madeGdmma more likeable, less cold & nicer to her son

Jesse I assumed the woman was a social worker...

Anyway thanks for having a username that reminds me there are such things as well written dramas

I was thinking she was the practice's counsellor?

Maybe you're right Majestic - I assumed it was a SW because of how Gemma reacted... ie as if it were a child protection issue.

I think she just realised that Simon and Ros were conspiring to make her appear as the unstable "bad" parent for sending their son to see his father and pregnant girlfriend sleeping together rather than Simon being the "bad" parent for sleeping and staying with his pregnant girlfriend. Revealing the truth was made to be worse than deception.

I think she just realised that Simon and Ros were conspiring to make her appear as the unstable "bad" parent for sending their son to see his father and pregnant girlfriend sleeping together rather than Simon being the "bad" parent for sleeping and staying with his pregnant girlfriend. Revealing the truth was made to be worse than deception.

oops sorry

Yes it implied his violence towards her was justified.

She left the room to go and get Tom because she knew the only way she could hurt Simon was through Tom.

Simon will cheat on Kate, and she will leave him.

There are a lot of 'blanket' assumptions going on here.

The boy didn't dislike his mum because she was a 'working mum'; he disliked her because she was in his view never there for him. Many mums work but they also balance that with being a good mum and having fun with their children. So it's not right to say it was work that was the issue - or women working- it was how she managed it all.

And you also have to accept that a child would not perhaps have the emotional maturity to know that his dad, who was at home a lot, was not pulling his weight as a breadwinner, because all the son saw was a dad who was around and had time for him compared to his mum who didn't. You've got to look at the psychology of it all more deeply- and not sure if the script did that. Teenage boys bond with their fathers as part of puberty and separate from their mothers; they look on their father as a role model. That's why he was so upset that his dad had another woman.

I didn't like the way the director / script toyed with us. First that the boy was dead, then that Gemma was dead from a blow to her head. The violence happened so fast that I can't exactly recall what happened. The dad may have just pushed her and she fell against the door. I'm not minimising the outcome but just saying that - sadly- I have friends who have marriages that are volatile where a bit of pushing and shoving by each of them is the norm and although it's wrong, it's not always intentional to cause harm.

That was another thing that I didn't like about the whole series Brokenhearted. Right from the start not one character seemed so show any love or compassion for anybody - you never even really see any emotion between the couple having the affair other than the shagging!

pinkfrocks - Except it was the mum who they showed doing pick up and taking her son places. It was the dad coming home very late at night. So that theory doesn't fit with the facts as they showed them.

nothing compares penguin

Don't think a social worker would rush in because Tom had been left on the doorstep

But it fits with the child's perception of what was happening.