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Is anyone watching Rain in my Heart on BBC2 now?

31 replies

Aero · 21/11/2006 22:23

Is all filmed locally to me and is totally heartbreaking.

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MrsMuddle · 21/11/2006 22:45

I was watching it, and then I had to go and collect DS from scouts, so I missed a chunk in the middle. What happened to Toni. I only realised at the end that she had died. It was heartbreaking. I hope it gets repeated. I'd like to see it all.

Gillian76 · 21/11/2006 22:48

I watched the last hour. My sister is an alcoholic. The most depressing thing I have ever seen

Wish I hadn't.

CountessDracula · 21/11/2006 22:53

God it was so sad those poor people

octobermum · 21/11/2006 22:53

She died within a couple of days after leaving hospital.

She asked the dr if she could go home before the weekend soshe could be with her son. Dr told her one would kill her.

She then was saying how she was going to go out for a drink (a small drink top up with lemonade)with her freinds she died that day.

Gillian76 · 21/11/2006 22:54

Not an ounce of hope

MrsMuddle · 21/11/2006 23:01
Sad
Aero · 21/11/2006 23:05

Yes, very sad - Toni was 26 and left a young son behind her, having already lost a little boy to MRSA, which is when she started drinking dangerously.

This is our local hospital - was there with ds2 for an appt today. It's everywhere though.

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sammac · 21/11/2006 23:13

What a sad programme and how brave to film through so many heartbreaking times.

imaginaryfriend · 21/11/2006 23:16

I found it almost unbearable to watch. Toni's story was tragic. Did she go home that weekend then and drink? Was that what killed her or would she have died anyway? She was so strange when she described herself as not an alcoholic, she looked straight at the camera as she said it, like she couldn't admit it to herself.

My father was an alcoholic, recovering when I was aged 4-16, drinking a bottle of spirits a day when I was 16-19, then recovering until he died 2 years later. He was an adorable man with a highly respected profession, but just like they said on the programme he was haunted by demons.

dinny · 22/11/2006 06:17

this was such harrowing viewing - those poor poor desperate people. couldn't stop thinking about it - they are souls in torment.

zippitippitoes · 22/11/2006 08:20

I watched this..forced myself to and it found it very difficult viewing.

I think a version of it would be very good for teenagers to see as part of PPE in school

zippitippitoes · 22/11/2006 11:47

I thought lots of people would have watched this..was it just too hard?

dinny · 22/11/2006 13:25

it was so upseting but really hammered home the true nature of alcoholism. awful - feel like I never ever want to drink again, esp as have found I want to have a glass or three of wine every night since having kids....

dinny · 22/11/2006 13:26

it was so upseting but really hammered home the true nature of alcoholism. awful - feel like I never ever want to drink again, esp as have found I want to have a glass or three of wine every night since having kids....

zippitippitoes · 22/11/2006 13:27

I gave alcohol permanently five weeks ago...really did make me think what little there is to help people really if you don't have family or friends

dinny · 22/11/2006 13:42

zippi, were we on the same teetotal thread? (well done, btw -how do you feel?)

zippitippitoes · 22/11/2006 13:45

noi.. I joined one about a year ago I think or a become healthy thread and then wasn't very successfull so i haven't bothered to join one...fine i'm having an all round effort and taking ads for the last four weeks too, and joined a gp scheme for the local gym which is 24 sessions with a trainer for four for 36.00

dinny · 22/11/2006 13:54

well done, sounds like you're doing fantastic

shrub · 22/11/2006 14:06

found it harrowing, my dm is an alcoholic and just the sheer hopelessness both at beginning and end of the program made me feel angry for having bothered watching it. the doctor at the beginning stated that by the time the patients are admitted here, it is way too late - how can they/we find a preventative?
at the end of the program he was begging vanda to tell him what would stop her drinking because he was all out of ideas
as a program i found it very poor - the idea of hiding behind the idea that this being a documentary meant that no responsibilty was taken for the very vunerable people who had agreed to be filmed.
i needed hope and i didn't find it hopeful or useful in any way. In contrast stephen fry's program on depression really struck a cord as i remember him talking about the depression being the problem and the fact that people use the drink and drugs as a way of self-medicating or trying to control the symptoms - whether it be oblivion or as a social oil that then gets out of control. it came back to the idea of coping mechanisms. i use buddhism and meditation as mine. there is something called 'mindfulness based cognitive behavioural therapy' (mbct) which has,in recent trials, i understand, been awarded clinical excellance by the nhs. it takes the practice of vipassana meditation (without the buddhist philosophy) and teaches people during mediation to watch their thoughts and begin to distance themselves from the thoughts and gradually their behaviour.
there is a quote from the buddha that sums it up much better:
'the thought manifests as the word;
the word manifests as the deed;
the deed develops into habit;
and habit hardens into character.
so watch the thought and its ways
with care, and let is spring from love
born out of concern for all beings.

Highlander · 22/11/2006 16:07

it was the most shocking piece of #TV I've seen in ages. Those poor people.

What struck me was that the alcoholism was treated separately from their mental health problems - surely their poor mental health triggers the alcoholism?

CountessDracula · 22/11/2006 16:09

Yes I thought that

I wasn't like they were just normal people who had slipped into alcoholism, they all seemed to have severe mental health issues. I feel in some ways it would have been better balanced if they had had some more "normal" people (cant' think of a better way of describing it sorry)

foxinsocks · 22/11/2006 16:11

I didn't/couldn't watch it all but also thought you could feel the utter hopelessness they all felt.

zippitippitoes · 22/11/2006 16:12

I thought they were "normal people" and it illustrated how the downward spiral can happen

foxinsocks · 22/11/2006 16:12

yes highlander - this is the problem in many cases I suppose.

The problem is the two become so meshed together and it's v hard to treat serious mental health problems when the person is blotto on 5 litres of wine a day.

NorksDrift · 22/11/2006 16:18

Is it repeated?