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Torchwood torture!!!

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Bomper · 21/10/2006 14:01

My ds (9) is nagging me to let him watch 'Torchwood'. He is a MASSIVE Dr Who fan, and loves Captain Jack. But I was a bit worried as I noticed it was post watershed, and I have now seen in my TV Mag that it's "not only scarier than Dr Who but also bloodier and raunchier - with both human and alien sex scenes" So he is DEFINITELY not seeing it!! And oh god has he been moaning at me!! Why have they decided to make it like this? They must know that a large proportion of kids will want to watch it!!

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bran · 21/10/2006 14:05

I don't see why adults shouldn't have adult programmes, I'm really looking forward to it and I think it will probably be better for not having the pre-watershed restrictions. Tell him you'll record it and he can watch it when he's 16.

HumphreyComfrey · 21/10/2006 14:05

Just had a BIG discussion with DSs re this.

They're 10 and 8.

The deal is we watch the first one, and go from there - unless there is anything too unsuitable, in which case they're back to their Simpsons DVD!

Mainly depends on the level of swearing as to whether they get to watch it.

flutterbeebonfirebanger · 21/10/2006 14:06

I thought this too when I heard it described as sacrier and darker and also that every cast member will kiss each other at some point men, women and aliens. If this is the case then I think the BBC has let itself down by going for the obvious sex angle on a programme that could be hugely popular without it.

SCARErenity · 21/10/2006 14:26

Just read an article in SFX magazine about Torchwood.

And I quote " Make no mistake about it, this is an adult show. With Sarah Jane taking care of the kids, and Doctor who the family audience, Torchwood's free to get a bit more down and dirty. This is a BBC3 show (with arepeat slot on BBC1 next year) and though it has that post-watershed freedom to ge further in terms of gore, sex and language, doesn't the series have more of a responsibility than a normal new series in that slot, due to the inevitable audience crossover from Doctor Who? How adult is too adult for Torchwood?
'That's an interesting question,' says Stokes (writer on the show? - serenity) 'I don't think we've censored anyone for being too adult. There are love stories that involve sex, there are horror stories that involve gruesome deaths, there is swearing. We're being careful but it is an adult show. It's not really for thewhole family. I think parents of nine-year-olds ought to be a bit careful' "

In out family DS2 is the biggest fan, but he's only six. There is no way he's going to be watching it without us checking it out first but tbh I think he's not going to watch much of it - I'm happy with the gore (and the swearing doen't bother me too much , depending what it is!) but he's too young for the 'girl/boy, girl/girl, boy/boy, alien/human' sex John barrowman talks about in another part of the article . I'm quite looking forward to it though

SoupDragon · 21/10/2006 14:41

I'm going to tape it whilst I watch it and see on an episode by episode basis which ones are suitable for DSs (5 &7). Luckily, they don't know anything about it so they're not badgering me about it.

SoupDragon · 21/10/2006 14:41

Is it tonight??? What time?? Need to write a reminder!

SCARErenity · 21/10/2006 14:44

Tomorrow night I think, at 10?

I'll check....

bran · 21/10/2006 14:44

Tomorrow at 9pm on BBC3, it's a double episode so it goes on until 10.40pm.

GraceUnderFire · 21/10/2006 14:45

It's tomorrow at 9pm on BBC3 or BBC4 (can't remember) and next Wednesday on BBC2.

There's an interview with Andrew Davies in this week's Radio Times in which he says it is eminently not suitable for children, hence the post-watershed screening time. Mine won't be watching it.

SoupDragon · 21/10/2006 14:47

Ooooh... I hope it's on Telewest's Teleport Replay too

SCARErenity · 21/10/2006 14:48

Ooops, sorry 9pm, two episodes on, finishes at 10.40

SCARErenity · 21/10/2006 14:50

Soupy, we get the replay thing on Homechoice too, but Torchwood isn't on it (for us anyway) Good excuse for DSs not to be able to see it!

Bomper · 21/10/2006 15:23

Agree with Flutterbee, it would still be hugely popular and enjoyable for adults without introducing the 'sex' angle!!

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Radley · 21/10/2006 15:24

Oooooooooooh Mr Bannerman, yum

SoupDragon · 21/10/2006 15:27

I didn't think you could check Teleport until the programme has been on, Serenity.

roisin · 21/10/2006 16:07

Email the BBC and complain. When we realised it was on post-watershed we emailed the BEEB for them to confirm (to ds1 age 9) that it was intended for an adult audience, not him. They did so. We then emailed back to ask why then is it being heavily advertised and promoted on the back of family-viewing slots, such as Robin Hood.

SCARErenity · 21/10/2006 16:12

Must work differently for your system then. All programmes that we can watch on replay are marked with an 'r' on the on screen guide, so we can see up to a week in advance. I'm not sure who's reponsible for it anyway, ie whether it's done by Homechoice (or Telewest in your case) or if it's done by the channel itself. Crossed fingers that you can then

roisin · 21/10/2006 16:19

Dh to BBC: Could you explain to my 9 year old Dr Who fanatic why Torchwood is being screened so late in the evening? Is this suggestive of inappropriate content for children - hence post-watershed?

BBC to dh: Dear Mr Roisin, Thank you for your recent email to the BBC regarding Torchwood. Torchwood is aimed at a post watershed audience, and although there are numerous connections with Doctor Who, it will be a completely separate series and no storylines will cross over between the two. Writer Russell T. Davies said of Torchwood: "It's dark, wild and sexy, it's the X Files meets This Life. It's a stand-alone series for adult audiences which will have its own unique identity." I hope that this information clarifies the situation, and thank you again for your email.

Dh to BBC: Thank you - that clarifies all but one point. Why has my son seen so many pre-watershed adverts for Torchwood? If it isn't suitable for children then why is it advertised on the back of family viewing (such as Saturday's robin Hood)?
Roisin's dh

BBC to dh: Dear Mr Roisin, Thank you for your further message to the BBC regarding trails for Torchwood.
Trails are an integral part of our programming and our experience suggests that they are much appreciated by our audience as a whole. In actual fact many people telephone the BBC every day to check details of our programmes and to find more information about them. Many more would do so if we did not provide reminders about programmes they would not wish to miss. By their very nature trails are unannounced so our audiences have no advance warning when they are to occur. We realise that material suitable within a billed and scheduled programme might not be suitable as a promotion, but we try to make sure that trails broadcast before the watershed do give some indication as to the programme's content. Nevertheless, the main purpose of a trailer is to ensure the maximum number of people are given the opportunity to sample the widest possible range of our programmes across all of our channels, hence the scheduling of a trail for Torchwood during primetime viewing.
The BBC has a well established policy of treating 9pm as the pivotal point of the evening?s television. Before the 9pm watershed, except in exceptional circumstances, all programmes on our domestic channels should be suitable for a general audience which includes children. The BBC expects parents to share responsibility for assessing whether individual programmes should be seen by younger viewers.
We put great thought into deciding which programmes should be trailed and when, to ensure that viewers who are likely to enjoy a particular programme are informed about it. We see trailers as an important part of the process of informing people about programmes coming up in the schedule.
I hope that this information goes some way to explaining the decision making process behind when to schedule trails for programmes, and thank you again for taking the time to contact us.

Dh to BBC: Thank you for your well-crafted stock response to my question.
I do not have a problem with the content of the trail being shown before watershed - merely the fact that the programme itself is so widely trailed to a pre-watershed audience.
Dr Who has a wonderful tradition of scaring children witless, and so it should. But pre-pubescent boys are obsessive compulsive by nature and want to watch/collect everything linked to the show. They can't, and we won't let them... but the BBC could be more helpful by not rubbing their noses in what they can't have. My son will not be watching Torchwood, as you have made it helpfully clear that it will not be suitable for him. That doesn't mean that I have a peaceful weekend ahead of me!
Yours
Roisin's dh

GraceUnderFire · 21/10/2006 18:04

Russell Davies, not Andrew Davies

Dreadful response from the BBC, roisin - I agree absolutely that if this programme is not for children it should not be being trailed on the back of 'family' programmes like Robin Hood.

GraceUnderFire · 21/10/2006 18:05

Do people really ring the BBC to check times of programmes ? Do they not have access to newspapers/TV listings mags/teletext/internet/RTKangaMummy?

motherinferior · 21/10/2006 18:10

But I do look forward to unbridled smut, I have to say. I don't agree it would be 'the same'. RD has done some extremely interesting, sophisticated stuff with Dr Who. I'm looking forward to see him pushing that forward with Torchwood.

As well as a spot of unbridled smut, obviously.

GraceUnderFire · 21/10/2006 18:12

Me too. I'm glad it's for grown-ups. Bring on the bisexual alien sex, that's what I say.

Though I cannot fancy Barrowman having seen what an unabashed, crowd-pleasing ham he was on How do You Solve a Problem Like Maria.

motherinferior · 21/10/2006 18:15

He was quite fabulous on (ahem) the CBeebies bedtime hour.

Polymorphous perversity, that's what I'm hoping for. In this as in so many things.

CarolinaMooncup · 21/10/2006 18:18

he was always rather fabulous on Live and Kicking too, as I remember.

GraceUnderFire · 21/10/2006 18:19

I missed him on the bedtime hour. It's always some woman from Corrie when I catch it.

Polymorphous perversity..you have such an elegant way with words, mi

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