Is there a Call the Midwife thread?

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The poor little boy

I dont think women were deemed capable of having a gay relationship. It just wasn't considered at all for a long time.

Afaik lesbians were excluded because Queen Victoria refused to believe that such women existed. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will be along shortly, but that's what my lesbian sister told me so it must be true .

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Is it something to do with penetration & 'sodomy'? Although I still think it would have been frowned upon - but I'm basing my hypothesis on Madame Vastra & Jenny (Dr Who) who acts as her 'housekeeper' - though is introduced to friends as her wife.

I saw the first two minutes and taped the rest. Were there further rat related moments? I'm not up for that.

Queen Victoria wasn't involved in writing the laws, it's a myth. Lesbians were socially unacceptable but not criminals.

And yet the Victorian London of Sarah Water's books are hooching with 'toms', in fact every girl the heroine meets is either gay or two shandies away from being persuaded :)

It was a far from happy ending for the family. Wasn't the medication prescribed the same one Alan Turing had to take?

I think it was, yes.

There were one or two bits more Morris, a few scenes talking about rats/poison etc. but no actual rats, then one actual rat between some dustbins near the end.

Ok that's copewithable! Cheers.

I've just watched it on catch-up. It really is the most mawkish, formulaic and overly-didactic nonsense. I kind of resent that it makes me cry anyway.

It's definitely gone a bit "Oh how moral and forward thinking we all are!" hasn't it?! I mean yes I got the sense in the books that the midwives and nuns in such an area were more understanding of issues such as poverty and mental health issues than the general population, just due to experience, but surely they wouldn't be SO understanding of every single issue especially as a lot was just accepted in those days or thought of as the way it was supposed to be!

HSMMaCM: "We're going to have alcoholic Trixie and the doctor will get lung cancer."

I don't think so - he's married to the scriptwriter.

I agree about the leaden moralising. It's always the nice, middle-class midwives and the doctor who are sympathetic to the plight of gays and immigrants. Ordinary white working-class people are portrayed as bigoted and unthinking. Really disadvantaged working-class people (blacks, Irish, prostitutes), on the other hand, are OK because they allow the middle-class characters to show how compassionate they are.

It really is very clunky.

I love the red headed midwife (whose name I can't remember). Her skin is beautiful. Last week it sounded like Trixie had a difficult childhood so wouldn't be surprised of she is slightly reliant on alcohol.

I don't mind the over simplistic moralising as it is still good Sunday night viewing. There really is very little on the telly these days that I make a habit of watching every week other than ctm. I hope Chummy comes back at some point though I thought her husband came off looking quite bad last night as he set the gay guy up and was totally unsympathetic to him.

dh knew the husband was gay as soon as he saw their parlour room with the piano and the painting. T'was a bit obvious I agree, still I spose intersting with the hormone injection the man was subject to

although Stilboestral is still used today, for prostate cancer and other cancers. still with the same side effects.

Had to goggle Tony as it was bugging me where I'd seen him before. Turns out it was corrie.

Oh yes he was the boyfriend of Rosie Webster wasn't he, they were going to run off to London together or something.

The more I think about it, the clunkier it seems. Gay man? Smart parlour. Poor Irish mother? Knickers made out of flea-ridden potato sack. Triumph of community compassion over bigotry? Nothing less than a Dead Poets-style standing ovation in the Church Hall will do.

This the kind of gay car mechanic I want to see. I don't care if he wouldn't be interested in me. I'll just enjoy the view

Yes, WTF about the standing ovation. More likely a few people might have clapped but some/most would have stayed sour.

I guessed that last night's would cause consternation on here!

Anyone wonder how Nurse Train (was she the actress who played the new 'jobs worth' manager in Dinner Ladies?) and Trixie coped with the Poor Irish woman giving birth with dysentery without catching it themselves? I don't how much boiling water would cope with that?

She was brilliant in Dinner Ladies "bye bye comfy bye bye" !!!