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Educating the East End

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Lilka · 04/09/2014 21:01

Anyone?

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Veritata · 20/09/2014 11:46

I wondered whether the teachers' votes would carry more weight than the pupils? Otherwise there wasn't much point telling Sheneil that the teachers would vote for her if the reality was that they would always be heavily outweighed by the popularity vote.

I was thinking about this election in the context of my children. DD wouldn't win on a popularity vote, because she's quiet and shy. However, she's very sensible and responsible, and would certainly step up to the mark. DS is extrovert and might well win on popularity, and actually would also be quite good as a head boy - but it would have worried me that he would foul up by oversleeping, forgetting to do something vital, or just deciding he didn't like something and wasn't going to do it. And if he fouled up that would damage his confidence anyway. So on the whole I think these things are best left to the head.

Loved Josh's Dad and the way pride was radiating from him at the end.

fascicle · 20/09/2014 12:36

DS is extrovert and might well win on popularity, and actually would also be quite good as a head boy - but it would have worried me that he would foul up by oversleeping, forgetting to do something vital, or just deciding he didn't like something and wasn't going to do it.

In your theoretical example above, it's a shame that you think your son would make a good head boy, but you're more concerned about him embarrassing himself by making a mistake. Surely life is all about taking risks, putting yourself out there and learning from mistakes? I thought Malaika came across as a very human, accessible role model for the other kids. Like the rest of us, not perfect, but pursuing goals and overcoming obstacles. The teachers clearly cared about her and were supportive towards her when she was having a difficult time. The head teacher was proud of her achievements.

If electing head pupils was left to the teachers alone, I don't think Joshua would have been chosen. Prior to the electioneering, he was not even on the radar of several students and teachers, including the head teacher.

MamaPain · 20/09/2014 15:13

I've been watching this closely as my nephew attends FB and really really likes it, he isn't one of the 'featured' kids but I've seen him in the background once or twice which is quite nice. He also knows some of the main children, like Halil and has given a different perspective on them to what is shown.

I don't know if it's been mentioned but it is pissing me off; this school is not in the East End. It's in (North) East London, and not part of the East End.

I think the way they elect the head boy and girl is thoughtful and considered. They seem to find the right balance between getting the kids involved and it not being a popularity contest. I think it's far more inspiring to have a head girl like they did who apparently 'has a power over people' and is relatable to rather than some good two shoes elected by the staff. We had staff elections at my school and at my elder DCs school. No one cared who the Head Boy/Girl was or paid any attention to them as they were people who did well academically and were punctual but were also void of charisma, it was another award for the 'geeks' which no other students were interested in.

To me it seems a good life lesson. Politics, leadership, getting on in life is often (unfortunately) a bit of a popularity contest. Of course you need to have the ability, but when neck and neck with someone similarly qualified or capable it can come down to people skills. I've had this with one of my DC who is very quiet and self-effacing. On one level he'd be an excellent head boy, he's responsible, intelligent, excels academically and always organised but he lacks the people, social and communication skills. I've put a lot of effort into bringing him out of his shell for his own good. He needs lessons like the election we saw in order to understand about putting yourself out there.

lilypoppet · 25/09/2014 19:51

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HighwayDragon · 25/09/2014 21:02

What did lily say? Shock

BOFster · 25/09/2014 21:04

Anyone watching tonight?

HighwayDragon · 25/09/2014 21:05

Me bof

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 25/09/2014 21:05

YepSmile

BOFster · 25/09/2014 21:06

This chap looks like a little Billy Bunter Grin

HighwayDragon · 25/09/2014 21:06

Grin Grin

BOFster · 25/09/2014 21:08

He's quite a sensitive wee chap, for all the clowning around, isn't he?

BOFster · 25/09/2014 21:09

I love the Head's deadpan recital of his swear words Grin

HighwayDragon · 25/09/2014 21:09

I had a snigger at Mr. Bellend Blush

FuzzyWizard · 25/09/2014 21:17

I laughed too. Juvenile perhaps but you could see even the head wanted to laugh.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 25/09/2014 21:23

Does it actually help to stand in the corridor and give attention to his bad behaviour?

OttilieKnackered · 25/09/2014 21:28

As a teacher, the pastoral lady is really irritating me. Doesn't she realise that her matey attitude makes it even harder for the teachers? It sets them up as the bad guy.

I appreciate these kids needs understanding and care, but is calling them 'babe' and joking around with them helping anyone?

FuzzyWizard · 25/09/2014 21:29

Probably not. You do wonder what the other 29 kids are doing while their teacher is outside dealing with him. I'm surprised they don't have some sort of "on-call" system whereby a member of staff not teaching at the time comes to collect/deal with him.

HighwayDragon · 25/09/2014 21:33

I remember being read the riot act outside the classroom by a teacher. I also remember being sent to stand in the corridor and forgotten about, I still remember Mr. Wood's face when I stuck my head round the door ''scuse me sir, I'm still out here' Grin

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 25/09/2014 21:36

The head is far too matey matey too imo.

lilypoppet · 25/09/2014 21:38

A shame they are focusing on bad behaviour yet again.

FuzzyWizard · 25/09/2014 21:39

Ottilie- I agree! Sometimes though I think it can be difficult for non-teaching staff to get that balance right. They are often able to build really positive relationships with really difficult kids- they deal with them in situations where they can give 1-2-1 attention and aren't having to compel them to do things they don't want to do-like work! They calm them down and prevent situations boiling over or spiralling out of control- this helps to reduce high level incidents but can reward low level disruption and rudeness to other members of staff.

HighwayDragon · 25/09/2014 21:41

Crying Sad

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 25/09/2014 21:42

Lily-what on earth did you post to get deleted?Shock Grin

OttilieKnackered · 25/09/2014 21:43

Yes, you've basically said what I wanted to say, but more eloquently. I'm sure their focus is on calming the kid and making them happier, but if a kid has to choose between a strict teacher making them work in a subject they don't like and a lovely lady who calls them hun and does wordsearches with them, which will they choose?

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 25/09/2014 21:45

Didn't summer do well in the workshop?Smile