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Potus has driven into a tree, Sam has accidently slept with a prostitute and Josh is about to get fired! West Wing Series One rewatch starts here!!

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lilibet · 09/08/2006 10:21

So, episodes one and two this weekend everyone and a chat next week?

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MarsLady · 10/08/2006 12:43

Excellent! Count me in. Oh and I'm a box set owner lol

Ellbell · 10/08/2006 15:45

Briefly at work... will check in to discuss episodes 1 and 2 next week.

beckybrastraps · 10/08/2006 17:00

Oooh yes! I am now 8 episodes in to season 1 (thanks to Ellbell ).

Can't wait to tell dh I have to watch the first two again so I can talk about them here!

How long 'til that really annoying woman leaves BTW?

merrily · 10/08/2006 17:13

hello everyone....... I lurked a bit on the old thread - I would love to join in with this one, but are you all watching on video/DVD? I don't own any box-sets so I won't be able to keep up with you all!

Is anyone watching the re-run of Series 1 on More4?

sis · 10/08/2006 21:01

I am the same as you merrily - no dvd or videos of the series so I will be watching the reruns on Sunday nights.

ginmummy · 10/08/2006 21:14

Bet you'll still cry at episode 10 of series 1 when the homeless man dies and Toby arranges the funeral, laugh when Sam tells his boss' daughter that he 'accidentally' slept with a prostitute, and wish you were CJ when she dances 'the Jackal'!

The West Wing - fantastic!

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ginmummy · 10/08/2006 21:23

Not sure when the re-runs are shown on More4, but Zoe was kidnapped in the last episode of series 4.

miffy2 · 10/08/2006 21:43

Well since DH and I were latecomers to WW (caught on to it mid series 5) we now have the pleasure of watching the first few series for the first time

We are now starting series 3 and all I can say it is easily the best stuff written for TV since I dont know when. The quality of writing, acting and directing, second to none.

Apart from the fact that we are now beginning to dream of all things west wing at night, I am absolutely loving it.

lionheart · 11/08/2006 16:56

Ready.

beckybrastraps · 11/08/2006 18:14

????????
Zoe kidnapped?????????
JB relinquishes power???????????

I have only seen the last two series and the first 10 episodes of the first series.

Clearly things get exciting. But I am now covering my ears and singing "la la la" to block out any more!

Gobblunarcharsky · 11/08/2006 18:15

Oh great, we've never seen it so are planning to catch it now - when is it on lilibet so I can set the skyplus?

sis · 11/08/2006 20:58

Sundays, 8pm on More4.

Ellbell · 15/08/2006 14:10

So... that's the practicalities sorted... Anyone want to talk about episode one?

Anyone agree that Bartlet's opening lines ('I am the Lord your God'... I mean, you don't get much more striking than that) spoken 'off-stage' ('off-camera'?) are a masterful way to introduce the character of (arguably) the most powerful man on the planet?

And who thinks CJ's hairstyle looks dated? When was the first series anyway?

And did anyone see the comment in yesterday's Guardian about the lack of really strong female characters in the WW (with the obvious exception of CJ)? I wanted to take issue. OK, so Donna is a bit wet (though I do like her), and there is a whole series of largely silent female assistants (Bonny, Ginger... and of course the wonderful Margaret, the even more wonderful Mrs Landingham, and later Debbie Fiderer, and so on), but there are good female characters too. I mean, Abbie Bartlet is a top doctor in her own right, Mandy is clearly a force to be reckoned with politically (though I don't like her!), Amy is a powerful woman who gets stuff done, not just on 'traditional' women's issues, and what about Andy? She's a congresswoman. And the pres has three daughters who are doing OK for themselves - Zoe(y) is doing a law degree, Ellie is doing a PhD in something biological (so you'd think she'd know how to avoid getting knocked up, but hey...) and Elizabeth is clearly the brains in her relationship and is the one who should be running for congress instead of that wet fart of a husband of hers....

I am at work, waiting for disappointed A'level students to ring me and beg me for a university place. Depressing! So please talk WW to me!

Ellbell · 15/08/2006 14:19

Here we go... This is Naomi Alderman in yesterday's G2 section:

In the past decade, the traditional geek realms of sci-fi and fantasy have produced more empowering, kick-ass heroines than any of the more "realistic" genres. Compare The West Wing - in which, goddess CJ Cregg aside, all the women are relegated to roles as wives or assistants - to Buffy, the vampire slayer. Or Xena, the warrior princess. Or Alias' Sydney Bristow, the super spy. I could go on.

The existence of these powerful female characters is worth celebrating. It's even worth devoting academic conferences to analysing and discussing. But of course, we can't have academics actually discussing something relevant to modern life, can we?

[The last bit makes me laugh, as I'm an academic and a medievalist... so am often accused of living in the past, but hey... I know my West Wing!!]

lilibet · 15/08/2006 16:45

Hi Ellbell, how's the new house?

Wow - what an incredible opening to a series, the dialogue was sharp and concise, there wasn't a single word wasted (even if some of it did go over my head), all the characters bar one (guess who?) are well introduced and wonderful, it was sharp, funny, emotional and everything that good tv should be.

A few points, why did they all wear identity badges when they were dropped by episode two? Thye don't as a matter of course call him POTUS, he is 'The President' and why did they write Alison Janny such a crap opening sequence. To show her gabbling away to a man and then falling off a running machine is an insult to the character and does not portray her in the right way. she of course does redeem herslef pretty quickly, but why on editing was that scene allowed thru.

I love Toby, I love Leo, I love Sam, I love Josh, I love Jed and I would lay my house on the line to say that the current administration does not have one man who can compare to any of them.

It was wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. So many fantastic lines, Leo and the crossword, Sam and Laurie, the way he looks at her when he gives her his coat, Sam and Malory, "this is bad on so many levels", Toby on the plane, Jed and the doctor (sob), the scene between CJ and Hoynes when with hindsight we know that she slept with him beofre this, - need I go on???

How can anyone say that the women in the West Wing are not good role models? You forgot Joey Lucas, attractive, female and disabled and she has a little man running round after her all the time! There are probabaly as many women as men in the press room, there are Nancy and Kate who are not only highly placed but could also break your neck with a pair of tweezers at thirty paces. When Leo was indited his lawyer was a woman (oh he should have got together with her!) I'm drawing a veil over the squeaky voiced midget,and I suppose that Helen Santos did very little but wear things and break beds with Matt (Marsy, where are you?) but on the whole these are intellegent women. I suppose that my only real argument with it is that none of them had young children to care for, apart from Andi, but perhaps a family life is not really compatible with the hours that were demanded of them. But that of course also applies to the men.

And look how well Donna did (sorry on a roll here!), she went from a pretty wet asisitant to being the First Lady's Cheif of Staff with a very snazzy office!

Roll on three and four - St Charlie's in the next one

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MarsLady · 15/08/2006 16:49

She clearly never got to the end of series 7 when the West Wing was full of powerful women.

Love the West Wing. Ooh the nostalgia of watching it all again! Sigh.............

MrsBadger · 15/08/2006 16:54

Am loving this - missed it first time round

Struck me how wistful and hopeful the arrangement of the theme tune seemed compared with the full-on military pomp of Series 7, and also (as a long-time House fan) that Lisa Edelstein looked so young. Not that she hasn't aged well, but even when playing a fairly feisty character she seems so naïve and wet compared to Cuddy.

Ellbell · 17/08/2006 10:29

Back in the office again... The house is fab - except for the lack of internet connection. Hardly any boxes left and have decorated our bedroom and the dds' room already!

Am massively struck by how amazingly good the first series of the WW is. I cheated and watched episode 3 last night (dh and kids all away so I treated myself!) and the speed of the dialogue is stunning. You have to really concentrate not to miss anything. Martin Sheen is great in that episode, and St Charlie is fab in it too... oh, and Fitz (but I won't say more for those that haven't seen it yet).

Favourite lines from episodes 1 and 2:

Leo: He was swerving to avoid a tree
Donna: And what happened?
Leo: He was unsuccessful.

Sam: I accidentally slept with a call-girl
Toby: What happened? Did you trip over something?

Can't believe I forgot Joey Lucas in my list of strong female characters. (I have often wondered if Kenny ever got any time off...) Didn't she have a baby? At least, I'm sure she was pregnant at one point (I'm thinking around the time of the re-election campaign, so, what? series 3/4-ish? Where's tribpot? She has an encyclopaedic knowledge of what happens when and in which episode...). And Nancy, too. Leo did get together with the lawyer (Jordan?) didn't he? But then she mysteriously disappeared. Oh, and the surgeon-general is a woman too (remember the cannabis controversy which Ellie gets involved in?).

The scene with CJ on the running machine reminded me (with the benefit of hindsight) of the scene when the bodyguard (whose name I've temporarily forgotten... aaargh) takes her to the secret service gym and she tries to shoot.

Back to work, but I shall return...

Ellbell · 17/08/2006 10:32

Quick afterthought question... does the President's granddaughter get younger as the programme goes on? She's 12 in episode 1, but I'm sure later, when the grandkids actually appear, she seems younger than that...

lilibet · 18/08/2006 11:32

Yes, where is Tripbot?

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lionheart · 19/08/2006 12:11

Just started back with episode 1 and this is a bit fragmented but you're rightthere are so many fab women in the series (except for Mandynever warmed to her at all).

It's so fast and pithy (love the way they shot the long sequence through the halls) and when the President finally shows up I was cheering from the sidelines. Interesting that he should be Catholic and a Democrat--the theological dimension is put to good use in future episodes, isn't it?
I like "sudden arboreal stop!"
Hope the dust is settling on the house move and with admissions front, Ellbell.

hunkermunker · 19/08/2006 12:25

I love this show.

When I was pg with DS1, I used to watch several back-to-back - he used to quieten if I played the theme tune when he was born!

lilibet · 19/08/2006 13:14

I'm looking forward to the one that I know is in series one, where he shouts at the woman with quotes from the bible.

Three adn four this weekend ladies!!

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lionheart · 19/08/2006 17:06

Oh, that's one of my absolute favourites, lilibet (although I do feel ^slightly sorry for the poor woman at the end). The President in full flow is a wonder to behold.

(My DS1 was the same with the X files tune, HM).

Oh, and just read that piece from the Guardian and have to say I think she's mistaken "on so many levels."

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