Anyone watching The Midwives?

[Horsemad]

Feel sorry for that midwife trying to deal with the lady refusing medical intervention.

Mike she'd had a previous cs so induction carries a higher risk than normal so she wouldn't have been allowed to be in active labour for long before a cs becomes safer, due to the risk of a uterine rupture. I could see how frustrated her poor mw was, I think I'd have wanted to shake her! If she'd just taken the elcs when suggested she'd have saved herself a lot of stress. And I agree with those saying I bet if she hadn't had a good outcome she'd have blamed the hospital. She was obviously terrified but several people had spoken to her at length, she wasn't being bossed around like she perceived.

The triplets were all so cute!

Both sets of triplets were gorgeous! Felt for the DH of second triplet mum, he was lovely and must have been so worried.

That midwife was so calm and polite. I would have lost my temper completely.

well to be fair she was right wasnt she?there was nothing wrong with the baby in the end was there?

That woman who was refusing to be monitored etc- OMG!!! I wanted to smack some sense into her!!! She is VERY lucky she ended up with a healthy baby and that midwife was brilliant. I would have lost my patience.

The chances were high that there could be a problem with the baby, ring

Not a risk anyone should be taking, IMO

Didn't she lose her first baby after a section? If so I can understand her fear, albeit irrational from a logical point of view.

I can't talk, I discharged myself from hospital twice with DD Once before she was born (4 weeks before to be fair) and once after.

I must have been a nightmare for the poor midwives.

The triplets were adorable. If I wasn't already really broody I would be now.

ring, how do you know that they didn't prevent something awful happening by intervening just in time?

Most mothers would put their terror to one side to protect their unborn child.

The baby had dropped off several centiles and from the brief glimpse we had of the growth chart, there appeared to be little or no growth over the last few weeks of pregnancy. There was a genuine risk to that baby's health the longer he stayed inutero. Even once born, a baby who has been growth restricted can have serious health problems. IMO, it really isn't worth taking a risk with your baby's health.

I thought the DD from the previous CS was there? Sat next to the partner (who was quiet as a mouse!!)

The poor baby did look teeny tiny.

It's quite telling that there were no cameras in theatre for that delivery. I suspect the baby was as flat as a pancake when he came out.

I was guessing that Audrey had some serious issues after her previous birth.

But, yes, I wanted to bellow at her to take the planned CS option before she was exhausted after labour.

I'm going to have to stop watching these progs; last week I watched Motorway Cops & that had the same effect on me

Yep, no cameras in theatre on that particular occasion because high risk of baby needing major resus/still born. Sorry if that upsets anyone, but the medical profession do not strongly recommend invasive procedures without a very good reason.

i know, I wanted to strangle her. If I was the Midwife, I would not have been as nice, after all there is a babies life at stake. sod birth experience, the main thing is having an alive baby in your arms, she would have sued if anything happened. Afterwards she still said she could have carried the baby full term, how deluded.

Trying my very hardest not to judge as I know she had an awful experience previously, but my god I felt so angry.
My DD was IUGR and the centile chart looked very similar to ths woman's. If I had ignored medical advice/intervention I don't know if she would be here today.
Her family were as useful as chocolate teapots, were they too scared of her to try and knock some sense into her?

You all thought the midwives were nice? I thought they were arse covering. That last midwife was well out of her depth.

The woman was traumatised, there is no way it should have got as far as it did. They backed her into a corner at massive risk to mum and baby.

I thought the other two couples were looked after beautifully but I thought the treatment of the other woman was poor. She was terrified and this pushed her into the horrible dogmatic irrationality.

I'm not saying she wasn't terrified, but that baby was in grave danger and it had to come out and sooner was best in that situation.
I reckon she's a bolshy character normally - too used to getting her own way and thought she could do what she liked. Which is fine if it was just her life she wanted to chuck away, but it wasn't just her life, was it.
Plus, as others have aaid, she'd be the type to sue if it HAD gone wrong.

She'll never realise how lucky she is.

Bring what else could they have done? She had mws and consultants telling her the risks, she was told her baby was at risk of still birth or brain damage and she continued to refuse a cs and discharged herself after being induced despite knowing the risks. The community mw was sent out to 'find' her, and the hospital mw repeatedly told her that the baby was becoming distressed and seemed genuinely upset when she was forced to remove the CTG.

I couldn't believe her attitude at the end 'oh, I could've gone full term, look at him, he's fine. How arrogant

The lady who had previous stillbirth and was being so difficult this time round was shown in a bad light. The editing in this series has at times been shocking.
Although as a nurse myself I would have had my work cut out and the lipstick was shocking
Surely she would have been high risk from time of confirmation of pregnancy? Where were the specialist midwifes? The episode on them was excellent one of the best of the series. This lady is significantly overweight and as a country in an obesity epidemic this wasn't discussed. This may have been the reason for the smaller baby.

She was very lucky to have a healthy child and her smug comments at the end were piss taking.
I know OBEM had an obesity in pregnancy episode which to me was handled very well.

Had she had a previous stillbirth? I thought she'd had a previous CS, resulting in a DD who was shown sat beside the bed at one point?
I thought her reasons against a CS were that she felt 'cheated' out of a vaginal delivery 9yrs earlier.

I didn't think she had a still birth her DD was stood by her bedside at one point with her quiet as a mouse partner and that the previous time she had to have an emergency c section which can be traumatic even if it goes well she felt cheated out of a vaginal birth so this time she wanted to experience it "properly"

I thought she was a total idiot can't believe how rude and ignorant she was. Poor midwife!

Regardless of how she came across on the show we have to work with the premisis that women make an informed consent and they can refuse treatment even if that means they put their baby at risk, and yes a woman can refuse treatment even if it means the baby will die, as unpalatable as that is the woman has bodily autonomy, the baby does not have rights until its born. We may not like that bit if it cha yes we are looking at a very slippery slope. Babies in utero do not have rights and that's the way it needs to be to protect the rights of women. This has been discusses on other threads.

During pregnancy and birth women are at their most vulnerable and there are lot sof threads do women having procedures done with no proper explanation,'no consent given etc and women are often told they should be grateful they got a healthy baby... Well yes bit they still need to be treated with respect and have their rights to bodily autonomy respected.