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Will it be an INJECTION if cash for Leah or will Lord Sugar ice the CUPCAKE dream if Louisa? Its thw Apprentixe final!

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Allthingspretty · 17/07/2013 08:59

Will it be a sweet ending for Louisa or will Leah's dreams be filler-filled?

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SassySpice · 18/07/2013 18:15

I have a MASSIVE crush on Neil Clough. Really want an hour with him somewhere. God he's gorgeous

JustinBsMum · 18/07/2013 19:02

Well Leah looked fab when she gave her presentation. To walk on and speak well and answer tricky questions was pretty good going.

The cup cake fad has been going for a while now, I wouldn't be surprised if it started to fizzle out v soon. Prob to be replaced with something healthier.

squoosh · 18/07/2013 19:06

SassySpice I kept screaming at him to shave his neck. It was as though he was wearing a fur onesie.

Steffanoid · 18/07/2013 19:08

only just watched, I dont think Louisa explained her idea clearly enough for anyone and thats why he chose Leah, not sure it was my favourite though

waikikamookau · 18/07/2013 19:18

i think neils was too stubborn and self important, though he might have been a good business man.
I liked Jason and who knows what a business man he might have been, he might have been marvellous
and I cant understand how siralan got rid of Miles, who is frankly gorgeous.

I think leah blinded him with science frankly and he was bowled over by her being a doctor. as they all were.
quite a boring ending.
luisa cocked up with her pink cakes, but I actually liked her. in spite of her Jason treatment.

milbracat · 18/07/2013 19:32

I don't think that the "process" has really done any favours for women in business. Both finalists made much of their image (ie outward physical appearance) and both chose business that were within their comfort zones as women - Louisa's "more of the same" bakery business with over emphasis on pink cup cakes, and Leah's cosmetic procedures that pander to women's insecurities about their appearance. Even the third place contestant as very much in the female safe space.

Interesting that they seemed to have chosen predominately men to assist them in the final.

I'm rather hoping that this series of the Apprentice has been the last as I think it has rather become formulaic with the same types of scenarios enacted by different people.

Openyourheart · 18/07/2013 20:38

Why is Botox unethical? Is dying your hair unethical too?

chocoluvva · 18/07/2013 21:50

Botox involves the injection of poison into your facial muscles to paralyse them. It costs £300.

A recent study found that botox injections around the mouth lessen your ability to smile which has a detrimental effect on your mental health. I kid you not.

cafecito · 18/07/2013 22:25

musicalmum40, yes it's obvious

fancyanother, newly qualified doctors don't get £150,000 I promise you. somewhere between 22 and 38k. I am also puzzled - has she only done FY1? You have to do 2 years post grad to be fully GMC registered

I agree though with your comments. I am glad she is relying on her looks and desire to make money as I would not take her seriously now as a medical doctor.

The business plan has been done before, too, but brilliantly and by qualified doctors who do it for cosmetic reasons to help people as well (eg skin cancer/ mole removal) such as here. The industry needs regulating completely, but this TV appearance has not done anything to help that, rather it's made it seem like anyone can set up shop. worrying.

The best thing she could do is campaign for regulation, do her specialty training in dermatology or something, and get taken on by a trusted clinic as a member of staff.

cafecito · 18/07/2013 22:26

*and also to help..

cafecito · 18/07/2013 22:27

or carve out a media doctor career. But in my opinion I wouldn't care what she had to say with so little experience. Pixie et al have years of real experience. At least Fran's venture 'had legs' - and was health promoting.

scottishmummy · 18/07/2013 23:18

She'd get full gmc registration with a licence to practise upon successful completion F1
It does mean her qualifying experience is limited as she proceeding into private practice
Also her experience of different institutions,staff and specialities will be limited

fancyanother · 18/07/2013 23:31

Yes, everyone will now know that not only do "Dr Leah" clinics have a barely qualified doctor at the helm, but that said "Doctor" isn't even going to be running the clinics. If they want that sort of treatment at that cost, surely they would go to one with someone who had put a few more years in?
Cafe no, I cant see how she is going to carve out a media doctor career, unless it is in the Katie Hopkins mould of talking out of her arse to get her face in the papers.
I thought GPs were on £150K after a few years. I meant she couldn't even be bothered to put in the grunt work for a few years to earn a pretty decent long term salary and career, she just wants to make a quick buck after taking a load of taxpayers money!

fancyanother · 18/07/2013 23:33

Waikiki I said when Jason was fired I thought he would be the most successful of all of them without siralan. That would show them- nice guy make a success of business where all the backstabbers have failed

scottishmummy · 18/07/2013 23:40

Woah,leah hasn't taken taxpayer monies.shes a graduate chosing non traditional career route
Plenty course have high attrition rate,eg teaching.one cant compel folk to remain in medicine
Honestly,if leah feels she wants to proceed into private practice cosmetics she completely entitled to do so

monkey42 · 18/07/2013 23:50

as another medic have read this whole thread with interest...mostly because I couldn't believe Leah was being taken seriously as a 'doctor' when as has been pointed out she can have only worked or maybe 2 years at most is barely at all, and certainly not as a dermatologist.

These days there is a trickle of doctors leaving medicine for other careers eg in the city. Although the headlines claim huge salaries for a few gps across the country the norm i think is still a good salary but much less than quoted. I am in hospital medicine where a full time consultant earns about 80k, after 5-6 years of med school, and somewhere between 10-14 years of scaling the ranks to consultant level. So a good salary compared to many but not huge compared to other london salaries eg finance/law/botox clinics!!

RussiansOnTheSpree · 18/07/2013 23:50

Of course she has taken tax payers' money. More to the point, she took a medical degree place and then a training place that somebody else would have made better use of.

scottishmummy · 18/07/2013 23:56

All courses have grads who don't remain in field,it happens a lot
What are you suggesting?she progressed and passed on her merits

RussiansOnTheSpree · 19/07/2013 00:03

According to this article ...... www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9724532/The-NHS-will-train-fewer-doctors-to-avoid-future-brain-drain-report-warns.html

.......it costs £250K to train each Doctor. Complete waste of money in Leah's case. And what's more, not only is she not honoring that investment, she is unethically using it to fleece the credulous and the unhappy and the vulnerable. There's a reason she keeps telling people she is ethical and moral, over and over again - it's because she knows very well that she isn't.

scottishmummy · 19/07/2013 00:05

Yes it's a huge investment. But realistically what are you suggesting
Mandatory work upon graduation
Will you inc the teachers,other hcp etc who don't work Public service upon graduation?

nametakenagain · 19/07/2013 00:16

Yes, mandatory work in the public sector on graduation to pay back tax payers' investment in your training. Doctors, nurses, teachers, etc. What's wrong with that?

People leaving to pursue commercial interests pay back the cost of their training.

Seems reasonable. I don't see why that doesn't happen already.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 19/07/2013 00:23

scottish I think, in this new age of paying for degrees etc, that for doctors, nurses, dentists, teachers - anyone who gets a massively tax payer subsidized training as well as a degree, but then instead of respecting the social contract implicit in that subsidized training jumps ship straight away to join the private sector (which they can only do because of the qualification they have had laid for out of my taxes) - they should automatically get the true cost of their qualification added to their student debt.

scottishmummy · 19/07/2013 00:24

Whats wrong with it?everything.you shouldn't inhibit free movement of labour
And in certain fields eg teaching (not medicine) there too many grads not enough jobs
I don't think the public sector can compel people to work in it,nor should it

RussiansOnTheSpree · 19/07/2013 00:31

There is no inhibition of free movement of labour! People can do what they want. But if they want to screw over the taxpayer then they have to pay back the cost of their training. It wouldn't be the public sector compelling people to work in it. It would be a T&C of medical/teacher/dentist training. You qualify. You go to work in private sector? You pay back the lot. You go to work in Public sector? You pay back your student loan only. You decide not to stick in the field for which you were trained (or fail to get a job in that field) but you get another graduate or non graduate job not reliant on your professional qualification - you just pay back your student loan like anyone else. You don't work at all? You pay back nothing.

Couldn't be fairer or indeed clearer.

SwedishEdith · 19/07/2013 00:31

In theory, if they go into the more lucrative private sector, they will be paying back the cost of their training in taxes.