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Ooh the thing where Cumberbatch is shagging lots starts tonight!

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shoppingbagsundereyes · 24/08/2012 17:06

Shallow? Me?

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Biscuitsandtea · 06/09/2012 19:39

Oh and thank you LadyClarice for showing me to this thread Smile

FrankelSaysRelax · 06/09/2012 19:52

BC is naturally ginger. Here's Gingerbatch Grin

FrankelSaysRelax · 06/09/2012 19:53

Posted too soon:

Sherlock 3 starts filming in January 2013, so it will be summer/autumn at the earliest before it reaches our screens Sad

shoppingbagsundereyes · 06/09/2012 20:52

I'm reading the books. The narrative kind of jumps forward and backward and is tricky to follow. Really witty though. Tietjens is a lot less attractive than BC though

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FrankelSaysRelax · 06/09/2012 20:55

Apparently BC had to wear a special brace to plump out his cheeks for the role, as well as body padding.

There's a very good interview with BC and Rebecca Hall in the latest Harper's Bazar. They talk a lot about Parade's End, and both look feckin gorgeous Grin

Biscuitsandtea · 06/09/2012 22:03

Maybe the brace thing explains his odd sad expression. He did look not quite himself. Rebecca hall is gorgeous I think?

FrankelSaysRelax · 06/09/2012 22:40

I'm very envious of Rebecca Hall's wardrobe in the show - and her waist!

Biscuitsandtea · 07/09/2012 06:54

Yes! Me too.

Can I ask a question? When they were going to the funeral everyone looked a bit Hmm when she came down the stairs. What was it that they didn't approve of?

FrankelSaysRelax · 07/09/2012 07:11

It was because of the skirt/dress she was wearing. It was a "hobble" skirt and the very latest hot fashion thing from London. Hence her maid's comment that "they'd only seen pictures".

They thought it was inappropriate for her to wear it to a funeral.

Biscuitsandtea · 07/09/2012 07:25

Ha! What an hilarious article Grin

FrankelSaysRelax · 07/09/2012 08:27

This is pretty funny too!!

limitedperiodonly · 07/09/2012 08:42

I wonder if the person who wrote that was a man or a woman?

It's very feminist and I now realise that Sylvia's skirt contrasts with Valentine's argument against restrictive brassieres. Did Ford make that point in the books?

I guess women adopting the latest sexy fashion and those casting off corsets would have drawn disapproval at the time. Very clever.

limitedperiodonly · 07/09/2012 08:53

It's interesting in that second article that Queen Mary appears to be most scandalised because the new skirt fashion means women can't curtsey to her sufficiently.

So stupid fashions can be liberating too. I wonder what her views were on suffragette's unfettered breasts?

FrankelSaysRelax · 07/09/2012 09:53

I will hold my hands up and say that I didn't figure out the hobble skirt thing of my own accord. It was cited in one of the television critic reviews so I looked it up and came across this blog which links to the two articles I posted above.

[not that smart] Grin

FrankelSaysRelax · 07/09/2012 09:58

This is rather interesting:

"Although some 19th century dress designs were closely draped, the term Hobble Skirt originates from around 1910, when the exotic, revolutionary creations of designers such as Poiret, Worth, Lucile and Paquin introduced the Western World to the concept that a skirt narrow enough around a woman's legs to substantially restrict her movement is extraordinarily attractive.

(Please bear in mind that two of these famous original Hobble Skirt-era designers were women. The suggestion by some fashion historians that women at the height of the suffragette movement were somehow forced against their will, by tyrannical male dressmakers, to struggle around in restricting skirts is completely wrong.

Poiret's boastful claim to have "shackled" women's legs should be taken figuratively, not literally. No designer can compel women to wear the garments he designs. They wear them of their own volition - including Hobble Skirts - because, however impractical such designs may have been, they are considered (by women) to be the height of stylish dressing. The way the wearer has to walk is all part of the appeal - admired by most but, inevitably, ridiculed by an ignorant minority, who, in displaying such ignorance, expose themselves as the real object worthy of ridicule.

Women will only ever wear what they wish to wear, but they will happily shorten their stride in order to wear a slender dress or skirt if they can see how attractive it is to do so. No male persuasion necessary. You will find many vintage photos of the Hobble Skirt era showing groups of women at society events strolling elegantly along together in their immense hats and obviously restricting hobble skirts. Such women dressed primarily to please themselves and each other, irrespective of male opinion.

The Hobble Skirt should be viewed, not as a symptom of male domination, but as a statement of feminine power and independence in women's struggle for emancipation and control in the battle of minds of the early Twentieth Century.)"

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 07/09/2012 11:52

You're welcome, Biscuits!

On BC's natural hair colour, isn't he more brownish-auburn than the vibrant ginger in that (gorgeous) photo? I'm sure he's said in the past that his natural colour is more like it was in the stage play Rhinoceros <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=0Px&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=960&bih=1150&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=-MIqG4qwpKP9yM:&imgrefurl=flickrhivemind.net/Tags/arenapal/Recent&docid=hCYhB5i4MJQMDM&imgurl=farm6.static.flickr.com/5021/5615512725_1a995f1afa.jpg&w=301&h=450&ei=t9FJUISOAe-10QWbu4HQAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=562&vpy=115&dur=456&hovh=275&hovw=184&tx=122&ty=175&sig=100905212096207828663&page=1&tbnh=146&tbnw=107&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:82" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">shameless excuse to post droolworthy photo

FrankelSaysRelax · 07/09/2012 11:56

[waves to Clarice]

Yes, I'm sure the photo I posted has been photo-shopped, but any excuse to post it I say!

[[http://whatareyouwearingbenedict.tumblr.com/post/29780399578/random-hair-appreciation-orgasm-post This is probably nearer the truth]

FrankelSaysRelax · 07/09/2012 11:57

Oops!

This

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 07/09/2012 12:05

Hi Frankel!

Yum! re that photo.

MurielTheActor · 07/09/2012 17:18

Frankie let's not forget that until the hobble skirt women's skirts had been long and flowing and huge with piles of petticoats, although they had slimmed down a little in the Edwardian decade but then had the bustle. The hobble skirt not only was slim fitting but finished at the ankle. So also first time women showed their feet.
All that would have been very very shocking indeed Wink

FrankelSaysRelax · 07/09/2012 21:31

Here we go again.

[prepares self to swoon at the line "Will you be my mistress tonight?"] Grin

Biscuitsandtea · 07/09/2012 21:35
FrankelSaysRelax · 07/09/2012 22:34

Poor old Valentine can't catch a break can she? Grin

Another great episode. Rebecca Hall's wardrobe (and figure) truly is to die for!

Colyngbourne · 07/09/2012 22:58

Stoppard has made Sylvia's character overly sympathetic - she is a lot nastier and deliberately cold to Christopher most of the time in the books. Here, it seems as if she is only tormenting Tietjens because he has forgiven her over her affairs and she wants more of a response out of him - including a return to marital intimacy. There is very little in book-Sylvia to endear her to the reader, regardless of her figure and style.

It looks as if they will curtail the draft-officer-work scenes of Tietjens and insert some invented scenes of Valentine's school just to keep her face in the picture of Episode 4 - unfortunately for the reader, the drama in the book is often in scenes that don't convey "Drama!" to the viewer. Hence nothing of Brownie's uncle Port Scatho haranguing (and then embarrassingly apologising to) the Tietjens over the bounced cheques and dismissal from the Club.

limitedperiodonly · 15/09/2012 08:48

I'm just watching last night's episode.

That silly bastard chuntering on about 'pink-eye' decimating the horse ranks and the go-to man being listed under 'embrocation' in Horse World? Grin

How did we ever lose our Empire?

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