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Make Bradford British - Channel 4

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Glenshee · 27/02/2012 12:54

This Thursday, 1 March @ 9pm

Channel 4: Make Bradford Bristish
Guardian: Bradford and race: the TV experiment that aims to change perceptions and prejudice
Daily Mail: It's Big Brother Bradford: Shocking new TV show brings together eight people from different ethnic backgrounds with explosive results

A bit dissapointed that Eastern Europeans aren't represented, but still looking forward - should be very amusing :)

I took the (real) citizenship test only a year ago, so know too well what a joke it is!

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Glenshee · 29/02/2012 13:04

This is tomorrow! :)
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FYP · 29/02/2012 20:59

I'm going to watch this. I was born and lived in Bradford in my younger years in the late 70's and early 1980's when a lot of migrants came to Bradford. I still live in West Yorkshire in an area which is heavily populated with Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Kurdish and Hungarian families. There are also 'fault lines' in my town where areas turn almost exclusively white British - will be watching the with interest!

Not too keen on the title though.

Glenshee · 01/03/2012 21:01

It's on now :)

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beeny · 01/03/2012 21:06

Am watching and taping the Good Wife the sexual tension will have to wait.

notabodenfan · 01/03/2012 21:07

Am watching this. Looks like it will be very interesting.

megapixels · 01/03/2012 21:34

Forgot about this and couldn't catch the first part. Looks interesting. Rashid is being deliberately difficult. Not sure why.

Archemedes · 01/03/2012 21:39

Its odd I thought thw white racists would cause problems first not Rashid'

SharonGless · 01/03/2012 21:40

It's very interesting viewing

perfumedlife · 01/03/2012 22:18

I really enjoyed this. Rashid did certainly redeem himself by bending a little eventually whilst also showing his comittment to prayer.

Glenshee · 01/03/2012 22:46

I'm pretty sure that those 11 out of 111 lucky souls who passed the citizenship test were foreigners Grin

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babyboomersrock · 02/03/2012 09:54

Rashid's religion looked a lot more positive than the white racist's version of Christianity; yes, Rashid was rather rigid initially, but he did show real compassion towards the end - and much of his over-zealous mosque-visiting stemmed from his personal interpretation of the rules.

I remember similar practices (multiple church visits, the belief that if you do so many penances or offer vast numbers of prayers or recite certain words, that you're a better Christian, ) among religious people in certain areas of 1950s Scotland. Even now in Scotland, we have people who think that music in church is evil, that Sundays shouldn't be blighted by cooking or Sunday sailings, that dancing is the work of the devil, and that women should dress modestly and keep their mouths shut. It's funny how we imagine that a deity would value that sort of ritual when most religious writings emphasise compassion and love for our fellow-humans.

That appalling retired policeman is the sort of person who blusters on about how Britain is a Christian country, while demonstrating a total lack of Christian charity. I used to live in the area and he ain't alone. I'll be interested to see whether he changes during the course of the programme, though I'm not sure I want to watch the pub scenes next week.

I am still wondering what "Britishness" is. It's a question I asked many times when I lived near Bradford, but it was never properly answered. Considering so many people want to "preserve the British way of life", you'd think they'd know what they wanted to save. All-white pubs? Empty churches? Drunks blighting our streets on Saturday nights? Stately homes reminding us of our shameful, class-ridden past?

The Haworth ex-policeman looks out on Haworth's cobbled streets today - with its tourists and Morris dancers, its tea roooms and middle-class buskers - and forgets that when the Brontes lived there, people were dropping like flies through poverty and lack of sanitation. It was no English rural idyll then.

My apologies for the essay.

Glenshee · 08/03/2012 20:03

Part 2 is on today @ 9pm !

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megapixels · 08/03/2012 21:10

Anyone watching? Grin at Rashid's toiletting lesson.

QueenKong · 08/03/2012 21:20

The bullying of Shabira is truly shameful. Poor girl.

megapixels · 08/03/2012 21:26

That was shocking. I dress like her but have never had any comments. Wonder what people are actually thinking inside Confused.

I love M, the white lady (can't remember her name). She's questioning things and pointing out inequalities in their home but she's not acting aggressive or superior.

QueenKong · 08/03/2012 21:30

I think she handled herself well. He just looked like a sweaty, ignorant chauvinist. Landlady didn't cover herself in glory either.

babyboomersrock · 08/03/2012 21:30

I agree, QueenKong. I want to tell Shabira that I wouldn't feel "British" in that pub either - I doubt very much that I'd fit in. In fact, most people I know would be extremely uncomfortable. I can't believe that the landlady didn't stand up for her.

megapixels · 08/03/2012 21:32

And coming over and stroking her leg like that Shock. I don't know what she would have thought. And it's not like every single white English woman I see wears mini skirts. He was talking as if it's the national uniform.

QueenKong · 08/03/2012 21:33

I think it is in his head. Pervert.

QueenKong · 08/03/2012 21:36

I love Damon's approach. Getting some free labour out of the 'experiment'. Cheeky sod.

babyboomersrock · 08/03/2012 21:37

megapixels, we can only hope that most people are a bit more rational than that bunch; I guess a city centre pub wasn't the best choice for a discussion on "Britishness". I still wonder why these guys feel so threatened? Which aspects of British culture do they imagine they are losing?

babyboomersrock · 08/03/2012 21:40

Stroking her leg was an assault. I found that horrible to watch. Maybe in his world women are just toys for men's pleasure? Creepy.

megapixels · 08/03/2012 21:42

Yeah, I don't think they'd have been able to answer if that question was put to them.

QueenKong · 08/03/2012 21:42

I think you're right babyboom, his main preoccupation seemed to be fewer women showing off their t&a. Hmm

QueenKong · 08/03/2012 21:44

Bit of an overreaction, Mohammed...