Upstairs Downstairs

[celticlassie]

Anyone watching?

Downton, it is not.

Prince George (Duke Of Kent) died on a plane in 1942, yes. And he like to put it about, not too fussy where. He was Barbara Cartland's real father, allegedly.

i do think the two posh males are badly cast, tbh. they're both so dark and wee. i want strapping lads, gawrn to seed a bit in the tum through high livin' and bad gels.

ppeatfruit, But Lady Marjorie wouldn't have allowed it! The young scoundrel was shipped off to India.
Simon Williams is still lovely at 65.
LeBof, Noel Coward wrote Mad about the Boy about Duke of Kent who he's alleged to have had an affair with.

I realised my problem is I keep comparing it with One Pair of Hands, the Monica Dickens memoir about being a cook at exactly that time.
This just doesn't feel modern enough to be the late 30s, in either behaviour or technology.
The storyline was very clever but it didn't ring true.

I am also confused by the butler being brought up a Quaker, it seems such an unQuakery job to do when Quakers are so political and obsessed by equality, but perhaps that was/will be explained further.

The real Prince George looked a lot like the bloke playing him though. Woof. Compared to the old beardies who went before him, anyway.

And I LOVE Keeley Hawes- I would hump her like a dromedary, given half a chance. Properly.

noooooooo he didn't, bof.

Hang on...

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look, not weedy at all. not even that dark, by the looks of things.

He looks dashing on wiki

nuffing like him, bof

God but it was a boring load of old tripe. The thing with the dead monkey, trying to be funny....? What the actual fuck?

he was deffo dashing. hence why i don't know why they've cast a dark haired, short weed.

He's a slip of a thing! What are you on about? Jeez, I've seen more meat on a butcher's pencil!

I thought it was a dead cat twatting specs

come ON. he looks nothing like the actor they've cast. give it up, bof.

I will concede he is too dark. But that's your lot.

was the monkey really supposed to be funny? i thought it was a bit of a shame and i was really confused about who the monkey belonged to even though I had seen the first series

I do like all the costumes and styling

Um...you seem to have the wrong end of the stick about Quakers, Tunip. I am a Quaker. Political? Not sure about that - although they are very active with campaigns etc. In going to prison, he made a very political statement about war. Obsession with equality? Really disagree. We are also talking about the 1940s....where people were expected to be in service. A Quaker considers all people equal yes.....but not to extent that they would consider themselves lowly if they were in service.

No, really have no idea if dead monkey was supposed to be funny, actually,can't understand WTF it was about.

brought up attending Quaker meeting Punkatheart.
But I admit to knowing nothing about early 20th c Quaker history, my reading around the history is mostly earlier than that.
It is not the being in service oneself I would expect a Quaker to have a problem with (they would see nothing wrong with menial work) but the role of the butler at that time was very much to do with ensuring everyone on the staff kept to a number of arbitrary conventions about what their place was and it is this element that seems to me to be out of sync with Quaker thought.

Who was a Quaker?

I think I may have asleep whilst it was on last night...though i had done a long shift at work

Mr 'udson would never allowed himself to be spoken to by the other staff the way Mr Pritchard was spoken to by the cook & the secretary, conchie or not, he was master of downstairs & his Word was Law.

Was the secretary the Sikh one? I couldn't work out what his job was.

He was secretary to the Mother, who i presume had died.

I really think they should have done one of those snapshots as to what happened in the last series tbh at the begining