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Downton Abbey Part THREE: Shoehorns and Spanish Fly

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NorfolkNChance · 27/10/2011 20:27

Soooooooooooooo I still reckon Cora to kick the bucket, shuffle of this mortal coil, sing with the choir eternal etc etc

I bet Jane is handy with a shorehorn for Lord 6, he's been out of action for a while so may need some help.

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ThePsychicSatsuma · 02/11/2011 10:53

last ep, lavinia did do that speech about wanting to marry in downton as so much had happened to her there... but she should really marry in london, so she does have family in london
if it is her that dies surely she'd be buried in london.

think it may be a family member that dies
WHAT IF SYBIL DIES

ThePsychicSatsuma · 02/11/2011 10:55

no it's not sybil, it may be Edith

and Lav
mm I agree, think Sir R may die too - hence we are cursed comment

ThePsychicSatsuma · 02/11/2011 10:56

anna and bates will get married then he will be arrested Grin

poor anna. although she is rather too smug and competant

ThePsychicSatsuma · 02/11/2011 10:59

Lav is def in the bed at 0.16 seconds on the youtube clip

and cora

being attended by Obrien

diddl · 02/11/2011 11:03

Bit convenient if both Lavinia & Sir R die.

Perhaps "cursed" because although Lavinia´s out of the way, they still can´t marry out of respect for her & the matter of Mary still being engaged?

QuickLookBusy · 02/11/2011 12:33

Can't believe it is the last one on SundaySad What will we do on a Sunday evening?

diddl · 02/11/2011 12:34

Have found the dialogue from the dance scene that was on The One Show.

Anyone interested?

AKMD · 02/11/2011 12:36

Yes please.

Bossybritches22 · 02/11/2011 12:41

Ok I read a TV magazine in ASDA today somewhere that Lavvy-poo, Carson & Cora get the Spanish 'flu.

it ain't Carson's paw dead on the bedspread & IF I recall rightly when Lavy was sitting up blubbing & Mary went to comfort her after Mathew told her to do one, the bedspread was that commomn peach!

Sir G & Lady Cora's boudoir is eu de nil & cream unless I'm much mistaken!

Pedant...OCD...Moi nooooo???

Always wanted to be a continuity girl!!

diddl · 02/11/2011 12:51

DANCE DIALOGUE-MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!!

"You know, Cousin Violet came to me...told me to marry you."

"When was this?"

"A while ago, when they knew I would walk again."

"Classic Granny. What did you say?"

"That I couldn't accept Lavinia's sacrifice of her life, children, future and give her the brush off when I was well again...I couldn't, could I?" (Looks at Mary)

"Of course not." (Avoids eye contact)

"However much I might want to..."

ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs · 02/11/2011 12:52

What shall we do on Sunday nights? Hmmm, so many possibilities. The paper may get read on the day it is purchased, the house may be a tiny bit neater and I will have my life back.
DH saw the first four back to back when he came home from Antwerp recently.
DD and I generally watch it on Monday afternoon after school, then tell DH what's happened that evening. He denies he adores it but is resistant to me wiping the recordings and doesn't have any argument to back up his assertion that it may come in useful at some time in the future. I can't imagine in what way it will come in useful but.........................

AKMD · 02/11/2011 13:13

Ahh, Matthew is human after all.

diddl · 02/11/2011 13:21

Well I think he´s horrible!

Feel sorry for Lavinia!

And he´s hedging his bets as well-sounding out Mary first.

Something I did think though-re him being a lawyer-wouldn´t he be returning to work soon?

So if Mary married him-she would be a lawyer´s wife until he inherits?

Unless he was willing/able to live off Lord G until he pops off?

MarthasHarbour · 02/11/2011 13:23

oh diddl i just melted at that dialogue. oh-how i want Matty to say that to meeeee

limitedperiodonly · 02/11/2011 13:32

On Monday I realised DH is a closet Downton fan who professes to hate it but really sees it as a bonding experience for us.

He was very hurt on Monday night when he realised I'd already watched it on the planner before work.

'Why couldn't you have watched Treme rather than something we both watch?' he pouted.

I explained that I couldn't get through a whole day without the risk of someone spoiling it for me but I was happy to sit through it again.

He said that wouldn't be the same and insisted I deleted it.

diddl · 02/11/2011 13:34

Could you imagine if Lavinia posted on here-

"Have been engaged for three years(?), stuck by him when I thought there was no chance of sex or children, finally making plans for wedding, only to discover that he loves someone else (also engaged) & has probably never loved me at all."

Or Matthew

"Fiancee stuck by me when paralysed, making plans for wedding, but now realise that I love someone else-after her granny pointed out that she still loves me.
She´s also engaged & when I asked her to marry me some years ago she hesitated"

Or Mary

Wasn´t too sure when he might not be the heir or couldn´t walk, but now...."

AKMD · 02/11/2011 13:43

IRL yes, I'd feel sorry for her, but she is a fictional character standing in the way of a major storyline. Vamoose! I wouldn't feel sorry for her IRL if she was being paid off though.

LadyHarrietDeSpook · 02/11/2011 13:50

I'm one of the ones (in case anyone is in any doubt) who believes in the incentivisation of Lavinia theory. Based on Sir R's ability to get her back up to Downton when it suited him - that's when she came back, when he clearly felt it would be useful, not a moment before. Sir R has shown such form in trying to pay people off (Anna, Vera Bates). He uses money to achieve what he wants all the time. I think the way she came back was well (rocking up with Sir R) lends some weight to this.

There is some back story we haven't heard all of yet but the way this series is going maybe we will remain in the dark.

diddl · 02/11/2011 13:51

No, I agree with the if she was being paid off.

But now I hope that M&M marry & are miserable/the real heir turns up.

They are both as bad as each other & deserve each other!

LadyHarrietDeSpook · 02/11/2011 13:52

Sorry I had a redundant sentence in there...I was adding about her appearing with him in the dining room. NO direct invitation from Lady Cora (it seemed), was it even fit and proper for her to travel alone with Sir R??? Confused

diddl · 02/11/2011 13:58

Well if she loved Matthew & Sir R told her it was at Cora´s suggestion, she might have gone without money.

But really, Matthew should have told her then that it really was OVER!!

IIRC, Lady Edith went out alone with Lord Strallan.

Also, Sir R is supposedly a family friend (of Lavinia´s)

LadyHarrietDeSpook · 02/11/2011 13:59

For people who feel sorry for her - it wasn't like she'd been writing to matthew saying I still love you yada. She took the word of soemone who had previously threatened her/she supposedly had a bad history with vis a vis her uncle. It's very weird the more you look at it, but then again maybe te writing is very bad too.

Ok that's enough now.

LadyHarrietDeSpook · 02/11/2011 14:00

He wasn't a family friend properly it was a business contact of her father's/uncles. I cna't remember how the whole bribery thing went down, but it definitely wasn't that he was a mate of the family.

limitedperiodonly · 02/11/2011 14:16

Lightbulb moment.

Sir Richard is modelled on Richard Desmond who made his fortune with reading material such as Big Jugs and Shaven Ravers before launching OK! and buying the Express to stop his wife's friends sniggering at her at charity dinners.

Lavinia will do anything he says to prevent him exposing her filthy past as a model in his title Cor! Set Cuties.

LadyHarrietDeSpook · 02/11/2011 14:40

we've never heard exactly who Matty and Lavvy Poo met either.

Maybe she sells shoehorns....